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From: "Jeffrey V. Merkey" <jmerkey@wolfmountaingroup.com>
To: Jan Harkes <jaharkes@cs.cmu.edu>
Cc: Jack Stone <jack@hawkeye.stone.uk.eu.org>,
	alan <alan@clueserver.org>,
	hpa@zytor.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: Versioning file system
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 14:03:49 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46744225.7000609@wolfmountaingroup.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070616164931.GF14788@delft.aura.cs.cmu.edu>

Jan Harkes wrote:

>On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 04:12:14AM -0600, Jeffrey V. Merkey wrote:
>  
>
>>Jeffrey V. Merkey wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>over).  There's also another patent filed as well.  It's a noble 
>>>effort to do a free version, but be aware there's some big guns with 
>>>patents out there already, not to mention doing this is complex beyond 
>>>belief.
>>>      
>>>
>>I reviewed your sample implementation, and it appears to infringe 3 
>>patents already.    You should do some research on this.  ~~~~
>>    
>>
>
>First of all, you are responding to someone in the UK, I thought they
>didn't even have software patents over there. Second, I didn't see any
>implementation, just a high level description. Finally advising anyone
>(who is not an actual patent lawyer that could correctly interpret the
>language and scope of a patent) to go search out patents seems pretty
>bad advice. That can only result in not even attempting to research some
>potentially new and innovative approach.
>
>Researching prior published work in the area is considerably more
>helpful. Especially when something is complex beyond belief it has
>probably attracted various researchers over time and there are most
>likely various different solutions that have been explored previously.
>Such existing work can form a good basis for further work.
>
>Finally, even if there are patents they could be too limited in scope,
>overly broad, can be invalidated due to prior art. It may also be
>possible that a patent holder has no problem granting a royalty free
>license for a GPL licensed implementation.
>
>Jan
>
>
>  
>
When you get into the recycling issues with storage, the patents come 
into play. Also, using the file name to reference revisions is already 
the subject of a patent previously filed (I no longer own the patent, I 
sold them to Canopy). There is a third one about to be issued.

The patents are:
*
6,862,609
**6,795,895

and this one about to be issued:

http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/fetch.jsp?LANG=ENG&DBSELECT=PCT&SERVER_TYPE=19&SORT=1211506-KEY&TYPE_FIELD=256&IDB=0&IDOC=1205953&C=10&ELEMENT_SET=IA,WO,TTL-EN&RESULT=1&TOTAL=3&START=1&DISP=25&FORM=SEP-0/HITNUM,B-ENG,DP,MC,PA,ABSUM-ENG&SEARCH_IA=US2005045566&QUERY=%28IN%2fmerkey%29+

The last one was filed with WIPO and has international protection, UK 
included.

Jeff

*

Jeff

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-16 18:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-15 22:23 Versioning file system Jack Stone
2007-06-15 22:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-15 22:51   ` alan
2007-06-15 22:59     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-15 23:06       ` alan
2007-06-16  8:11     ` Jack Stone
2007-06-16  9:46       ` Jeffrey V. Merkey
2007-06-16 10:12         ` Jeffrey V. Merkey
2007-06-16 13:15           ` Mark Williamson
2007-06-16 19:57             ` Jeffrey V. Merkey
2007-06-16 16:49           ` Jan Harkes
2007-06-16 20:03             ` Jeffrey V. Merkey [this message]
2007-06-16 19:38               ` Jack Stone
2007-06-16 20:08               ` Alan Cox
2007-06-16 21:25                 ` Jeffrey V. Merkey
2007-06-16 20:39               ` Jan Harkes
2007-06-16 20:43                 ` Jack Stone
2007-06-16 22:17                 ` Alan Cox
2007-06-17  2:18                   ` Jeffrey V. Merkey
2007-06-17  2:39                     ` Jeffrey V. Merkey
2007-06-17 22:11                   ` Dale Amon
2007-06-16 21:06               ` Dale Amon
2007-06-16 11:42         ` Graham Murray
2007-06-16 14:53     ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-16 14:53       ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-18  9:45       ` Andreas Dilger
2007-06-18  9:45         ` Andreas Dilger
2007-06-18  9:54         ` Jack Stone
2007-06-18 10:13         ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-18 10:13           ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-18 14:01         ` Theodore Tso
2007-06-18 16:16           ` alan
2007-06-18 17:29             ` Theodore Tso
2007-06-18 17:33               ` Jeremy Allison
2007-06-18 20:30                 ` Theodore Tso
2007-06-18 20:50                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-06-18 17:46               ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-04 17:32               ` Erik Mouw
2007-07-04 20:47                 ` Theodore Tso
2007-07-05 17:55                   ` Erik Mouw
2007-07-05 13:57                 ` John Stoffel
2007-07-05 14:23                   ` Chris Mason
2007-07-05 17:57                   ` Erik Mouw
2007-06-18 15:32         ` Chris Mason
2007-06-18 23:18           ` Bron Gondwana
2007-09-29 17:44         ` Sorin Faibish
2007-09-29 17:44           ` Sorin Faibish
2007-06-18 15:51     ` Bryan Henderson
2007-06-18 16:37       ` Jack Stone
2007-06-18 16:56         ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-18 17:56         ` Bryan Henderson
2007-06-19  3:10           ` Kyle Moffett
2007-06-19  7:49             ` Jack Stone
2007-06-19  7:58             ` Bron Gondwana
2007-06-20  2:43               ` Kyle Moffett
2007-06-19  9:09             ` Martin Langhoff
2007-06-19 16:52             ` Jakub Narebski
2007-06-15 22:52 ` Chris Snook
2007-06-16  8:25   ` Jack Stone
2007-06-19 18:03     ` Chris Snook
2007-06-19 19:06       ` Jack Stone
2007-06-19 20:03         ` Chris Snook
2007-06-19 20:08           ` Jack Stone
2007-06-19 20:15             ` Chris Snook
2007-06-19 20:27               ` Jack Stone
2007-06-19 20:34             ` John Stoffel
2007-06-19 20:38               ` Jack Stone
2007-06-19 20:38               ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-06-19 21:02                 ` John Stoffel
2007-06-19 19:08       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-19 19:12         ` Jack Stone
2007-06-19 19:15           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-19 19:22             ` Jack Stone
2007-06-19 20:10           ` Chris Snook
2007-06-19 20:14             ` Jack Stone
2007-06-19 20:31               ` Chris Snook
2007-06-20  8:34           ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2007-06-19 21:50         ` Alan Cox
2007-06-19 22:07           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-20  8:05             ` Ph. Marek
2007-06-19 20:43       ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-06-19 22:07         ` david
2007-06-19 22:13           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-19 23:07             ` Jan Harkes
2007-06-19 23:12               ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-19 22:21           ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-06-19 23:35         ` Bryan Henderson
2007-06-20  0:27           ` Trond Myklebust
2007-06-20  5:00             ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-20 17:04             ` Bryan Henderson
2007-06-20 17:10               ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-20 17:33               ` Chris Snook
2007-06-15 22:57 ` Kok, Auke
2007-06-15 23:01   ` alan
2007-06-16 11:20     ` Johannes Weiner
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     [not found]     ` <8wJal-3KA-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <8xm22-4Ql-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
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     [not found]           ` <8xs7w-69W-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-06-18 20:54             ` Bodo Eggert
2007-06-18 21:08               ` alan
2007-06-18 21:31                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-18 21:34                   ` Jeremy Allison
2007-06-18 22:10                   ` Theodore Tso
2007-06-18 22:26                     ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-18 22:26                       ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-18 21:24                       ` Brad Boyer
2007-06-18 21:24                         ` Brad Boyer
2007-06-19  3:15                         ` Kyle Moffett
2007-06-19  3:15                           ` Kyle Moffett
2007-06-18 22:34                       ` Jeremy Allison
2007-06-18 22:34                         ` Jeremy Allison
2007-06-18 22:56                       ` alan
2007-06-19  7:01                       ` Theodore Tso
2007-06-19  7:01                         ` Theodore Tso
2007-06-18 22:48                     ` Jeremy Allison
2007-06-18 23:00                       ` alan
2007-06-19  7:05                       ` Theodore Tso
2007-06-19 16:52                         ` Jeremy Allison
2007-06-19 16:56                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-18 22:47                   ` alan

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