From: Constantine Kousoulos <wuwei@freemail.gr>
To: The development of GRUB 2 <grub-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: 64 Bit Support?
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 20:47:43 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <467573BF.40305@freemail.gr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070617112403.GA24100@coresystems.de>
Stefan Reinauer wrote:
> The problem might be that Grub2 locks out existing operating systems,
> if it does not support switching to long mode itself. I read rumours
> only, so I might be completely wrong.
>
> Is anyone booting non-Linux OSes like FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD,
> OpenSolaris, etc with GRUB2 yet?
>
Excuse me for stepping into this discussion. I've trying for a
while to load an elf64 kernel using GRUB2 and i have failed so
far. The reasons for this are many and they can answer why not
many people use GRUB2 to load their oses. Firstly, the next
version of the multiboot specification does not correspond to the
current implementation of GRUB2. It describes many things that
GRUB2 does not do. This creates confusion and disappointment.
Besides that document, there is virtually no other doc for GRUB2.
Secondly, the wiki's entries on testing GRUB2 on x86 need serious
update. Thirdly, if anyone cares to use a boot loader nowdays,
he/she expects to support loading elf64 images. Although GRUB2 is
supposed to do that, in practice that is not completely true. One
reason is because none of the GRUB2 developers cared to state
explicitly that GRUB2 does not set up long mode. Personally, i
found out about it the hard way by looking into source code. In
addition to that, i think that there are a few other bugs that
prevent GRUB2 from loading elf64 images. Lastly, i found very
little support from the grub-devel mailing list. Since GRUB2 is
still in development and there is little documentation, i expected
to find a little more feedback than the one i got lately. I think
that giving no feedback to normal users puts people off from using
GRUB2.
I think that the above problems need to be addressed in order for
GRUB2 to be an even greater piece of software than Grub Legacy
currently is.
Regards,
Constantine
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-06-17 17:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20070616160553.C62C1BFD7@mail.lfs-matrix.net>
2007-06-17 23:11 ` 64 Bit Support? David Broadfoot
2007-06-17 0:16 ` Jeroen Dekkers
2007-06-17 9:26 ` Robert Millan
2007-06-17 9:37 ` Stefan Reinauer
2007-06-17 11:03 ` Jeroen Dekkers
2007-06-17 11:24 ` Stefan Reinauer
2007-06-17 17:47 ` Constantine Kousoulos [this message]
2007-06-17 19:34 ` Andrei E. Warkentin
2007-06-17 19:29 ` Andrei E. Warkentin
2007-06-17 21:06 ` Jeroen Dekkers
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