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From: Simon Arlott <simon@fire.lp0.eu>
To: David Stevens <dlstevens@us.ibm.com>
Cc: "C. Scott Ananian" <cscott@laptop.org>, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFD] First draft of RDNSS-in-RA support for IPv6 DNS autoconfiguration
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 05:50:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <467CA683.2000706@simon.arlott.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OFB5D50B53.A24A00A2-ON88257303.0017FE53-88257303.0018AD5D@us.ibm.com>

On 23/06/07 05:30, David Stevens wrote:
> netdev-owner@vger.kernel.org wrote on 06/22/2007 06:17:46 PM:
Is there a reason why you're CC:ing the Sender? Doesn't that end 
up in the mailbox(es) of the netdev admin(s)?

>> On 23/06/07 02:04, David Stevens wrote:
>>>         Why not make the application that writes resolv.conf
>>> also listen on a raw ICMPv6 socket? I don't believe you'd need
>>> any kernel changes, then, and it seems pretty simple and
>>> straightforward.
>> Because then it requires yet another network daemon, RA in 
>> the kernel means there's no need for one to manage adding 
>> auto-configured IP addresses... what's wrong with doing the 
>> same for DNS?
> 
>         It's not yet another one, since you have to run something
> to get it in resolv.conf, anyway. That seems much better to me

Well, it'd be the library including it - so there'd be no daemon 
application involved.

> than having the kernel track data that can only be used at the
> application layer. The app itself looks like it'd be really simple.

Keeping application data in the kernel does start to get silly though, 
e.g. everything in dhcp-options(5)... but DNS is used almost 
everywhere. This could be a configuration option so that anyone who 
doesn't want it can disable it completely.

>         Auto-configured addresses are used by the kernel. It has to
> have those addresses. But the kernel doesn't do DNS look-ups, or
> write resolv.conf; that's the difference, for me.

Using DHCPv6 as an example, auto-configuration does not have to be in 
the kernel at all either.

-- 
Simon Arlott

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-23  4:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-22 23:26 [RFD] First draft of RDNSS-in-RA support for IPv6 DNS autoconfiguration C. Scott Ananian
2007-06-22 23:39 ` Michael Buesch
2007-06-23  0:09   ` C. Scott Ananian
2007-06-23  2:11     ` Dan Williams
2007-06-23  9:07     ` Michael Buesch
2007-06-23 20:41       ` David Miller
2007-06-22 23:42 ` Michael Buesch
2007-06-23  1:04 ` David Stevens
2007-06-23  1:17   ` Simon Arlott
2007-06-23  4:30     ` David Stevens
2007-06-23  4:50       ` Simon Arlott [this message]
2007-06-23  5:12       ` David Miller
2007-06-23  8:23         ` Pierre Ynard
2007-06-24 19:05     ` Olaf Kirch
2007-06-23 13:25   ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2007-06-23 14:47     ` C. Scott Ananian
2007-06-23 16:40       ` Simon Arlott
2007-06-23 16:48       ` David Stevens
2007-06-23 16:51         ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2007-06-23 17:45           ` David Stevens
2007-06-23 18:13             ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2007-06-23 18:51               ` David Stevens
2007-06-23 19:18                 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2007-06-23 20:27             ` Pierre Ynard
2007-06-25  2:17       ` Dan Williams
2007-06-25  2:53         ` David Miller

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