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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 2/3] Virtio draft III: example net driver
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 18:20:06 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46803F96.6050809@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46803E0E.7080103-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
Brian King wrote:
>> I'm probably missing something. What is wrong with a scatterlist of
>> length 1?
>>
>
> Absolutely nothing, as long as the interface guarantees I don't see a larger
> scatterlist. With the current implementation it looks to me like this is
> always true, but if we were to stick to using a scatterlist, it would
> make sense to allow the user to specify a max sg length supported. This
> value could be different for in vs. out buffers.
>
>
Okay; so virtio net should have configurable scatterlist max sizes.
>>>> 2. The user of this API does not have access to the sk_buf. This causes
>>>> issues for ibmveth since it needs to reserve the first 8 bytes of the
>>>> rx buffer for use by the firmware. It currently uses skb_reserve to do this.
>>>>
>>>> Would it be simpler to just pass an sk_buf rather than the scatterlist
>>>> on these interfaces for virtio_net users?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> It probably should pass the sk_buff.
>>>
>> But virtio is a generic layer that is useful for more than just networking.
>>
>
> Agreed. However, this one is a huge issue for ibmveth. ibmveth must write a tag
> to the first 8 bytes of each rx buffer before passing the buffer to the pSeries
> hypervisor. The hypervisor then writes this tag to the rx queue when the buffer
> is used. This first 8 bytes of the rx buffer is not overlayed with data. Additionally,
> the hypervisor may offset further than 8 bytes into the buffer for the start
> of the payload if it so desires. The offset is also written to the rx queue.
>
> Another option which would solve this problem would be if the get_inbuf
> interface also returned an offset into the original data buffer where the
> payload starts.
>
>
I guess. Rusty was concerned that virtio will explode to the sum of all
options on all hypervisors, and we now see it begin.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-06-25 22:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-07 12:02 [PATCH RFC 0/3] Virtio draft II Rusty Russell
2007-06-07 12:04 ` [PATCH RFC 1/3] Virtio draft II: virtio.h Rusty Russell
2007-06-07 12:04 ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-07 12:05 ` [PATCH RFC 2/3] Virtio draft II: example block driver Rusty Russell
[not found] ` <1181217867.14054.195.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-07 12:05 ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-07 12:07 ` [PATCH RFC 3/3] Virtio draft II: example net driver Rusty Russell
[not found] ` <1181217920.14054.196.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-07 12:07 ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-07 12:19 ` [PATCH RFC 2/3] Virtio draft II: example block driver Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <4667F7C0.3070604-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-08 1:11 ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-08 1:11 ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-07 12:19 ` Avi Kivity
2007-06-16 13:12 ` [PATCH RFC 0/3] Virtio draft III Rusty Russell
[not found] ` <1181217762.14054.192.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-16 13:12 ` Rusty Russell
[not found] ` <1181999552.6237.255.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-16 13:14 ` [PATCH RFC 1/3] Virtio draft III: virtio.h Rusty Russell
[not found] ` <1181999669.6237.257.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-16 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC 2/3] Virtio draft III: example net driver Rusty Russell
[not found] ` <1181999825.6237.260.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-16 13:18 ` [PATCH RFC 3/3] Virtio draft III: example block driver Rusty Russell
2007-06-16 13:28 ` [PATCH] Lguest implemention of virtio draft III Rusty Russell
2007-06-17 14:25 ` [PATCH RFC 3/3] Virtio draft III: example block driver Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <1181999920.6237.263.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-16 13:28 ` [PATCH] Lguest implemention of virtio draft III Rusty Russell
[not found] ` <1182000514.6237.273.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-16 13:50 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-16 13:50 ` [kvm-devel] " Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-17 14:25 ` [PATCH RFC 3/3] Virtio draft III: example block driver Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <46754451.2010305-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-18 8:08 ` Rusty Russell
[not found] ` <1182154095.19064.24.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-18 9:09 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <46764BB5.6070704-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-19 6:27 ` Rusty Russell
[not found] ` <1182234466.19064.51.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-19 8:34 ` Avi Kivity
2007-06-19 8:34 ` Avi Kivity
2007-06-19 6:27 ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-18 9:09 ` Avi Kivity
2007-06-18 8:08 ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-25 15:26 ` [PATCH RFC 2/3] Virtio draft III: example net driver Brian King
2007-06-25 19:33 ` [kvm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <467FDEAD.4030204-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-25 19:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20070625193304.GB25736-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-25 21:54 ` Avi Kivity
2007-06-25 22:13 ` [kvm-devel] " Brian King
[not found] ` <46803999.4040500-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-25 22:13 ` Brian King
[not found] ` <46803E0E.7080103-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-25 22:20 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2007-06-25 22:20 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2007-06-25 21:54 ` Avi Kivity
2007-06-28 11:20 ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-28 11:20 ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-28 15:55 ` Brian King
[not found] ` <1183029641.12401.36.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-28 15:55 ` Brian King
2007-06-16 13:18 ` [PATCH RFC 3/3] Virtio draft III: example block driver Rusty Russell
2007-06-25 15:26 ` [PATCH RFC 2/3] Virtio draft III: example net driver Brian King
2007-06-16 13:17 ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-17 14:14 ` [PATCH RFC 0/3] Virtio draft III Avi Kivity
2007-06-18 7:48 ` [Xen-devel] Re: [kvm-devel] " Rusty Russell
[not found] ` <467541DF.5060907-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-18 7:48 ` [Xen-devel] " Rusty Russell
2007-06-16 13:14 ` [PATCH RFC 1/3] Virtio draft III: virtio.h Rusty Russell
2007-06-17 14:14 ` [kvm-devel] [PATCH RFC 0/3] Virtio draft III Avi Kivity
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