From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758814AbXGYFAa (ORCPT ); Wed, 25 Jul 2007 01:00:30 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751439AbXGYFAX (ORCPT ); Wed, 25 Jul 2007 01:00:23 -0400 Received: from smtp110.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([209.191.85.220]:35678 "HELO smtp110.mail.mud.yahoo.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1750946AbXGYFAW (ORCPT ); Wed, 25 Jul 2007 01:00:22 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com.au; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:X-Accept-Language:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=W6mi85dpi03fPIhXTtgSqBRTy7iOcleQ/jPYnFVxEEF1YkiGOAygGYoOFxijSI74H7gfax2n8PsybfAHWyC65ldY0nEf9KDtmpnzCYIjRlLAIFOcy24opS/lQ3affiVpfZRZAIIFMawFlsFwkbf5xmkO6ClrWfjAJyTH732OB5U= ; X-YMail-OSG: e59v7FIVM1n9L29RzHZuWl1VMT8XDtoz6L5OG11IbSTcxKtfr4fTBSPlfc2DopXlwZxrgvZkQQ-- Message-ID: <46A6D8DF.8060205@yahoo.com.au> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:00:15 +1000 From: Nick Piggin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051007 Debian/1.7.12-1 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rene Herman CC: Ray Lee , Jesper Juhl , Andrew Morton , ck list , Ingo Molnar , Paul Jackson , linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23 References: <20070710013152.ef2cd200.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <200707102015.44004.kernel@kolivas.org> <9a8748490707231608h453eefffx68b9c391897aba70@mail.gmail.com> <46A57068.3070701@yahoo.com.au> <2c0942db0707232153j3670ef31kae3907dff1a24cb7@mail.gmail.com> <46A58B49.3050508@yahoo.com.au> <2c0942db0707240915h56e007e3l9110e24a065f2e73@mail.gmail.com> <46A6CC56.6040307@yahoo.com.au> <46A6D7D2.4050708@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <46A6D7D2.4050708@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Rene Herman wrote: > On 07/25/2007 06:06 AM, Nick Piggin wrote: > >> Ray Lee wrote: > > >>> Anyway, my point is that I worry that tuning for an unusual and >>> infrequent workload (which updatedb certainly is), is the wrong way >>> to go. >> >> >> Well it runs every day or so for every desktop Linux user, and it has >> similarities with other workloads. > > > It certainly doesn't run for me ever. Always kind of a "that's not the > point" comment but I just keep wondering whenever I see anyone complain > about updatedb why the _hell_ they are running it in the first place. If > anyone who never uses "locate" for anything simply disable updatedb, the > problem will for a large part be solved. > > This not just meant as a cheap comment; while I can think of a few > similar loads even on the desktop (scanning a browser cache, a media > player indexing a large amount of media files, ...) I've never heard of > problems _other_ than updatedb. So just junk that crap and be happy. OK fair point, but the counter point that there are real patterns that just use-once a lot of metadata (ls, for example. grep even.) -- SUSE Labs, Novell Inc. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <46A6D8DF.8060205@yahoo.com.au> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:00:15 +1000 From: Nick Piggin MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23 References: <20070710013152.ef2cd200.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <200707102015.44004.kernel@kolivas.org> <9a8748490707231608h453eefffx68b9c391897aba70@mail.gmail.com> <46A57068.3070701@yahoo.com.au> <2c0942db0707232153j3670ef31kae3907dff1a24cb7@mail.gmail.com> <46A58B49.3050508@yahoo.com.au> <2c0942db0707240915h56e007e3l9110e24a065f2e73@mail.gmail.com> <46A6CC56.6040307@yahoo.com.au> <46A6D7D2.4050708@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <46A6D7D2.4050708@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Return-Path: To: Rene Herman Cc: Ray Lee , Jesper Juhl , Andrew Morton , ck list , Ingo Molnar , Paul Jackson , linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Rene Herman wrote: > On 07/25/2007 06:06 AM, Nick Piggin wrote: > >> Ray Lee wrote: > > >>> Anyway, my point is that I worry that tuning for an unusual and >>> infrequent workload (which updatedb certainly is), is the wrong way >>> to go. >> >> >> Well it runs every day or so for every desktop Linux user, and it has >> similarities with other workloads. > > > It certainly doesn't run for me ever. Always kind of a "that's not the > point" comment but I just keep wondering whenever I see anyone complain > about updatedb why the _hell_ they are running it in the first place. If > anyone who never uses "locate" for anything simply disable updatedb, the > problem will for a large part be solved. > > This not just meant as a cheap comment; while I can think of a few > similar loads even on the desktop (scanning a browser cache, a media > player indexing a large amount of media files, ...) I've never heard of > problems _other_ than updatedb. So just junk that crap and be happy. OK fair point, but the counter point that there are real patterns that just use-once a lot of metadata (ls, for example. grep even.) -- SUSE Labs, Novell Inc. -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: email@kvack.org