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From: Mark Lord <liml@rtr.ca>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com>,
	IDE/ATA development list <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: No equivalent for ide-scsi available with the new PATA drivers?
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 08:24:50 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46B1CD12.3020800@rtr.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070723175239.54b721f1@the-village.bc.nu>

Alan Cox wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:36:44 -0400
> Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>> People with IDE tape drives are complaining there's no ide-scsi
>> driver available anymore with the new PATA layer. Is anyone
>> working on one?
> 
> It would make no sense. The libata layer is already using the SCSI
> midlayer so compliant devices should already appear with the st driver.
> 
> We might need some tape detect logic, but I don't have any tape devices
> so its up to someone with a tape drive handy to help out...

I have a PATA tape drive here somewhere.
Does anyone out there want it, with the understanding that it be
used to test/improve libata tape support?

One thing about ATAPI tape drives, is that they generally won't "stream"
with the generic SCSI st code.  Instead, many of them will do a *very* sluggish
stop/start stop/start stop/start kind of action when reading/writing bulk
data.  To get them to stream continously requires more driver intelligence,
*especially* when sharing a cable with some other device.

With an appropriate driver, tailored for ATAPI tape drives, they can run
at full speed while sharing a channel with another active ATA/ATAPI device,
both drives in use at the same time.

Cheers

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-08-02 12:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-23 16:36 No equivalent for ide-scsi available with the new PATA drivers? Chuck Ebbert
2007-07-23 16:48 ` James Bottomley
2007-07-23 16:52 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-23 17:01   ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-07-23 17:17     ` James Bottomley
2007-08-02 12:24   ` Mark Lord [this message]
2007-08-07 18:53     ` Alan Cox

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