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From: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>,
	IDE/ATA development list <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: libata git tree, mbox queue status and contents
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 17:14:50 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46B4357A.2080502@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070803172040.52853316@the-village.bc.nu>

Alan Cox wrote:
>> * Albert: irq_on/off.  Really need to give this some thought.  Not sure 
>> I like where this model is going.  Polling and twiddling irq on/off 
>> should be kept to a minimum, because it's sorta an admission that the 
>> host state machine has broken down, and we need to bandaid.  Its a 
>> bandaid not a root-cause solution.
> 
> I think of it more as an admission that the IDE design is lacking in a
> few areas. No suprise as its an emulation of a 15 year old interface that
> was normally used polled.

I second Alan's opinion.  The root cause of the problem is that the
controller lacks reliable IRQ masking and pending register.  If you add
a slightly malfunctioning controller and/or device into the mix, it's
guaranteed to break.

And there's another addition to the mess from SATA land which I
discovered a few days ago.  Some SATA controllers with SFF interface
don't send non-command H2D Reg FIS when ATA_NIEN is toggled, so the
updated ATA_NIEN is sent together with the next command && some SATA
devices don't honor ATA_NIEN on command H2D Reg FIS.  Fun!

I think we should go combined IRQ + polling mode Jeff once mentioned so
that we automatically fallback to polling if IRQ doesn't work for some
reason.  To do that, we need reliable IRQ masking && the only way to
achieve proper IRQ masking on SFF controllers seems plugging it from the
host side.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-04  8:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-03 16:09 libata git tree, mbox queue status and contents Jeff Garzik
2007-08-03 16:20 ` Alan Cox
2007-08-04  8:14   ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2007-08-05 14:34   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-08-08 14:42 ` Mark Lord
2007-08-08 16:28   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-08-13 12:09 ` Jens Axboe

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