From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S934019AbXHFTs1 (ORCPT ); Mon, 6 Aug 2007 15:48:27 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S933585AbXHFTsA (ORCPT ); Mon, 6 Aug 2007 15:48:00 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([66.187.233.31]:41225 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932250AbXHFTr7 (ORCPT ); Mon, 6 Aug 2007 15:47:59 -0400 Message-ID: <46B77AB3.40006@redhat.com> Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 15:46:59 -0400 From: Chuck Ebbert Organization: Red Hat User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (X11/20070719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Cox CC: Christoph Hellwig , J??rn Engel , Ingo Molnar , Jeff Garzik , Linus Torvalds , Peter Zijlstra , linux-mm@kvack.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List , miklos@szeredi.hu, akpm@linux-foundation.org, neilb@suse.de, dgc@sgi.com, tomoki.sekiyama.qu@hitachi.com, nikita@clusterfs.com, trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no, yingchao.zhou@gmail.com, richard@rsk.demon.co.uk, david@lang.hm Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/23] per device dirty throttling -v8 References: <20070804070737.GA940@elte.hu> <20070804103347.GA1956@elte.hu> <20070804163733.GA31001@elte.hu> <46B4C0A8.1000902@garzik.org> <20070804191205.GA24723@lazybastard.org> <20070804192130.GA25346@elte.hu> <20070804192615.GA25600@lazybastard.org> <20070804194259.GA25753@lazybastard.org> <20070805203602.GB25107@infradead.org> <46B7626C.6050403@redhat.com> <20070806203710.39bdc42e@the-village.bc.nu> In-Reply-To: <20070806203710.39bdc42e@the-village.bc.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 08/06/2007 03:37 PM, Alan Cox wrote: >> We already tried that here. The response: "If noatime is so great, why >> isn't it the default in the kernel?" > > Ok so we have a pile of people @redhat.com sitting on linux-kernel > complaining about Red Hat distributions not taking it up. Guys - can > we just fix it internally please like sensible folk ? > > Ingo's latest 'not quite noatime' seems to cure mutt/tmpwatch so it might > finally make sense to do so. Do we report max(ctime, mtime) as the atime by default when noatime is set or do we still need that to be done? From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <46B77AB3.40006@redhat.com> Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 15:46:59 -0400 From: Chuck Ebbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/23] per device dirty throttling -v8 References: <20070804070737.GA940@elte.hu> <20070804103347.GA1956@elte.hu> <20070804163733.GA31001@elte.hu> <46B4C0A8.1000902@garzik.org> <20070804191205.GA24723@lazybastard.org> <20070804192130.GA25346@elte.hu> <20070804192615.GA25600@lazybastard.org> <20070804194259.GA25753@lazybastard.org> <20070805203602.GB25107@infradead.org> <46B7626C.6050403@redhat.com> <20070806203710.39bdc42e@the-village.bc.nu> In-Reply-To: <20070806203710.39bdc42e@the-village.bc.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Return-Path: To: Alan Cox Cc: Christoph Hellwig , J??rn Engel , Ingo Molnar , Jeff Garzik , Linus Torvalds , Peter Zijlstra , linux-mm@kvack.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List , miklos@szeredi.hu, akpm@linux-foundation.org, neilb@suse.de, dgc@sgi.com, tomoki.sekiyama.qu@hitachi.com, nikita@clusterfs.com, trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no, yingchao.zhou@gmail.com, richard@rsk.demon.co.uk, david@lang.hm List-ID: On 08/06/2007 03:37 PM, Alan Cox wrote: >> We already tried that here. The response: "If noatime is so great, why >> isn't it the default in the kernel?" > > Ok so we have a pile of people @redhat.com sitting on linux-kernel > complaining about Red Hat distributions not taking it up. Guys - can > we just fix it internally please like sensible folk ? > > Ingo's latest 'not quite noatime' seems to cure mutt/tmpwatch so it might > finally make sense to do so. Do we report max(ctime, mtime) as the atime by default when noatime is set or do we still need that to be done? -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: email@kvack.org