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From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Steve Wise <swise@opengridcomputing.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	mshefty@ichips.intel.com, rdreier@cisco.com,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	general@lists.openfabrics.org
Subject: Re: [ofa-general] Re: [PATCH RFC] RDMA/CMA: Allocate PS_TCP ports from the host TCP port space.
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 22:26:55 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46C3B5EF.5060409@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46C310E1.7020503@opengridcomputing.com>

Steve Wise wrote:
> 
> 
> David Miller wrote:
>> From: Sean Hefty <mshefty@ichips.intel.com>
>> Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:40:16 -0700
>>
>>> Steve Wise wrote:
>>>> Any more comments?
>>> Does anyone have ideas on how to reserve the port space without using 
>>> a struct socket?
>>
>> How about we just remove the RDMA stack altogether?  I am not at all
>> kidding.  If you guys can't stay in your sand box and need to cause
>> problems for the normal network stack, it's unacceptable.  We were
>> told all along the if RDMA went into the tree none of this kind of
>> stuff would be an issue.
> 
> I think removing the RDMA stack is the wrong thing to do, and you 
> shouldn't just threaten to yank entire subsystems because you don't like 
> the technology.  Lets keep this constructive, can we?  RDMA should get 
> the respect of any other technology in Linux.  Maybe its a niche in your 
> opinion, but come on, there's more RDMA users than say, the sparc64 
> port.  Eh?

It's not about being a niche.  It's about creating a maintainable 
software net stack that has predictable behavior.

Needing to reach out of the RDMA sandbox and reserve net stack resources 
away from itself travels a path we've consistently avoided.


>> I will NACK any patch that opens up sockets to eat up ports or
>> anything stupid like that.
> 
> Got it.

Ditto for me as well.

	Jeff



  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-16  2:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-07 14:37 [PATCH RFC] RDMA/CMA: Allocate PS_TCP ports from the host TCP port space Steve Wise
2007-08-07 14:37 ` [ofa-general] " Steve Wise
2007-08-07 14:54 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-08-07 14:54   ` [ofa-general] " Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-08-07 15:06   ` Steve Wise
2007-08-07 15:39     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-08-07 15:39       ` [ofa-general] " Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-08-09 18:49 ` Steve Wise
2007-08-09 18:49   ` [ofa-general] " Steve Wise
2007-08-09 21:40   ` Sean Hefty
2007-08-09 21:40     ` Sean Hefty
2007-08-09 21:55     ` David Miller
2007-08-09 21:55       ` David Miller
2007-08-09 23:22       ` Sean Hefty
2007-08-15 14:42       ` Steve Wise
2007-08-15 14:42         ` Steve Wise
2007-08-16  2:26         ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2007-08-16  3:11           ` Roland Dreier
2007-08-16  3:11             ` Roland Dreier
2007-08-16  3:27           ` [ofa-general] Re: [PATCH RFC] RDMA/CMA: Allocate PS_TCP portsfrom " Sean Hefty
2007-08-16  3:27             ` Sean Hefty
2007-08-16 13:43           ` [ofa-general] Re: [PATCH RFC] RDMA/CMA: Allocate PS_TCP ports from " Tom Tucker
2007-08-16 13:43             ` Tom Tucker
2007-08-16 21:17             ` David Miller
2007-08-16 21:17               ` David Miller
2007-08-17 19:52               ` Roland Dreier
2007-08-17 19:52                 ` Roland Dreier
2007-08-17 21:27                 ` David Miller
2007-08-17 23:31                   ` Roland Dreier
2007-08-17 23:31                     ` Roland Dreier
2007-08-18  0:00                     ` David Miller
2007-08-18  0:00                       ` David Miller
2007-08-18  5:23                       ` Roland Dreier
2007-08-18  5:23                         ` Roland Dreier
2007-08-18  6:44                         ` David Miller
2007-08-18  6:44                           ` David Miller
2007-08-19  7:01                           ` [ofa-general] Re: [PATCH RFC] RDMA/CMA: Allocate PS_TCP portsfrom " Sean Hefty
2007-08-19  7:01                             ` Sean Hefty
2007-08-19  7:23                             ` David Miller
2007-08-19 17:33                               ` [ofa-general] Re: [PATCH RFC] RDMA/CMA: Allocate PS_TCPportsfrom " Felix Marti
2007-08-19 17:33                                 ` Felix Marti
2007-08-19 19:32                                 ` David Miller
2007-08-19 19:32                                   ` David Miller
2007-08-19 19:49                                   ` Felix Marti
2007-08-19 19:49                                     ` Felix Marti
2007-08-19 23:04                                     ` David Miller
2007-08-19 23:04                                       ` David Miller
2007-08-20  0:32                                       ` Felix Marti
2007-08-20  0:32                                         ` Felix Marti
2007-08-20  0:40                                         ` David Miller
2007-08-20  0:40                                           ` David Miller
2007-08-20  0:47                                           ` Felix Marti
2007-08-20  0:47                                             ` Felix Marti
2007-08-20  1:05                                             ` David Miller
2007-08-20  1:05                                               ` David Miller
2007-08-20  1:41                                               ` Felix Marti
2007-08-20 11:07                                                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-20 16:26                                                   ` Felix Marti
2007-08-20 19:16                                                   ` Rick Jones
2007-08-20 19:16                                                     ` Rick Jones
2007-08-20  9:43                                             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-08-20 16:53                                               ` Felix Marti
2007-08-20 16:53                                                 ` Felix Marti
2007-08-20 18:10                                                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-20 19:02                                                   ` Felix Marti
2007-08-20 19:02                                                     ` Felix Marti
2007-08-20 20:18                                                     ` Thomas Graf
2007-08-20 20:33                                                       ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-20 20:33                                                         ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-20 20:33                                                 ` Patrick Geoffray
2007-08-20 20:33                                                   ` Patrick Geoffray
2007-08-21  4:21                                                   ` Felix Marti
2007-08-21  4:21                                                     ` Felix Marti
2007-08-19 23:27                                     ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-19 23:27                                       ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-19 23:12                                       ` David Miller
2007-08-19 23:12                                         ` David Miller
2007-08-20  1:45                                       ` Felix Marti
2007-08-20  1:45                                         ` Felix Marti
2007-08-20  0:18                                 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-20  4:31                               ` [ofa-general] Re: [PATCH RFC] RDMA/CMA: Allocate PS_TCP portsfrom " ssufficool
2007-08-21  1:16                           ` [ofa-general] Re: [PATCH RFC] RDMA/CMA: Allocate PS_TCP ports from " Roland Dreier
2007-08-21  6:58                             ` David Miller
2007-08-21  6:58                               ` David Miller
2007-08-28 19:38                               ` Roland Dreier
2007-08-28 20:43                                 ` David Miller
2007-10-08 21:54       ` Steve Wise
2007-10-09 13:44         ` James Lentini
2007-10-10 21:01         ` Sean Hefty
2007-10-10 21:01           ` Sean Hefty
2007-10-10 23:04           ` David Miller
2007-10-10 23:04             ` David Miller

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