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From: Carsten Emde <Carsten.Emde@osadl.org>
To: Guennadi Liakhovetski <gl@dsa-ac.de>
Cc: Calin Culianu <cculianu@yahoo.com>,
	Daniel Walker <dwalker@mvista.com>,
	linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: How to talk to DAQ Hardware?
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:26:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46D28A9F.1050008@osadl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0708270954340.8578@pcgl.dsa-ac.de>

Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Aug 2007, Calin Culianu wrote:
>> Now, there is no way to raise the priority of particular driver's ISRs is
>> there?  So that a specific ISR can preempt anything including a hard realtime
>> process?
> It's the second time you say "hard" real-time, so, just wanted to warn - 
> it is not hard. It is still only soft real time, but a pretty good one, I 
> think.
I don't know what exactly "soft real-time" is, and I don't think there 
is an exact definition of it. The term "hard real-time", however, is 
well defined. It is the same as "real-time". It means that a system 
never ever exceeds a previously defined maximum latency. If, for 
example, you define 100 microseconds as such, you run your system over a 
long time period (several days), and you observe several billions of 
single external events that trigger a user space process at real-time 
priority, then there must be no single event that fails to do so within 
100 microseconds. We did this constantly and successfully with an -rt 
kernel. So why are we not allowed to call this "hard real-time"?

If you are aware of a situation where this is not the case, then this 
may be a specific problem related to a specific situation. Please help 
us to improve the -rt patches further and submit a bug report. I am 
confident that it will be fixed as soon as possible.

	--cbe

  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-27 10:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-25 15:45 How to talk to DAQ Hardware? Calin Culianu
2007-08-25 18:00 ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-25 19:49   ` Calin Culianu
2007-08-26  1:46     ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-26  2:08       ` Calin Culianu
2007-08-26  5:24         ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-26 10:33     ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2007-08-27  7:56     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-08-27  8:26       ` Carsten Emde [this message]
2007-08-27 10:02         ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
     [not found]           ` <1188212251.21706.45.camel@sven.thebigcorporation.com>
2007-08-27 11:09             ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-08-28  7:04           ` Robert Schwebel
2007-08-27 10:55         ` Bernhard Kuhn
2007-08-27  9:12       ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2007-08-27  9:53         ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-08-28  5:32       ` Robert Schwebel

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