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From: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Sander van Leeuwen <sandervl-2taLTamkYL2ELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: KVM & VMX root mode
Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 18:59:15 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46D98C53.4070604@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46D980C2.3040501-2taLTamkYL2ELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org>

Sander van Leeuwen wrote:
> Hi Avi,
>
> Our non-vmx mode fails, because the cpu is in vmx root mode.
>
> Two products that use vt-x for virtualization could perfectly co-exist 
> if both comply with the way Intel recommends people to use vt-x.
> See figure 19.1 in chapter 19.4 of the 'Intel 64 and IA-32 
> Architectures Software Developer's Manual'. VirtualBox is programmed to
> follow these rules and therefor allows any other virtualizer to run 
> side-by-side.

As far as I understand, kvm follows these rules.  It enables vmx when 
loaded and disables then when unloaded.

>
> Currently KVM prevents us from using our generic virtualization engine 
> and does not allow anybody else to use the vt-x extensions (without
> explicitely leaving vmx root mode).

Well, obviously kvm can't operate if you disable cr4.vmxe and/or switch 
paging off.  The two solutions are not run-time compatible.  I don't see 
why this is a problem as you should simply not run the product you 
aren't using, and everything should just work.

>
> As your product is included in the mainline Linux kernel and enabled 
> by default, it would be nice if you could follow Intel's recommendations.

kvm isn't enabled by default.  It requires explicit user action to enter 
vmx mode ('modprobe kvm-intel').


-- 
Any sufficiently difficult bug is indistinguishable from a feature.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-09-01 15:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-31 13:02 KVM & VMX root mode Sander van Leeuwen
     [not found] ` <46D81156.8050100-2taLTamkYL2ELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 14:25   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]     ` <46D97669.7050609-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 14:33       ` Alexey Eremenko
     [not found]         ` <7fac565a0709010733j2c3f58aav743949a3021a5c30-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 14:35           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]             ` <46D9789B.9040001-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 14:44               ` Alexey Eremenko
2007-09-01 15:09       ` Sander van Leeuwen
     [not found]         ` <46D980C2.3040501-2taLTamkYL2ELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 15:59           ` Avi Kivity [this message]
     [not found]             ` <46D98C53.4070604-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 17:24               ` Sander van Leeuwen
     [not found]                 ` <46D9A030.1020904-2taLTamkYL2ELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 17:46                   ` Alexey Eremenko
2007-09-01 18:42                   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                     ` <46D9B297.5070502-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-03  3:14                       ` Daniel P. Berrange
     [not found]                         ` <20070903031403.GA16190-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-03  7:29                           ` Sander van Leeuwen
     [not found]                             ` <46DBB7C1.60708-2taLTamkYL2ELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-03  7:44                               ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                 ` <46DBBB65.3020406-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-03  8:09                                   ` Sander van Leeuwen
     [not found]                                     ` <46DBC120.3050301-2taLTamkYL2ELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-03 11:34                                       ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                         ` <46DBF13B.9080005-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-04  9:51                                           ` Sander van Leeuwen
     [not found]                                             ` <46DD2AA2.8010109-2taLTamkYL2ELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-04 13:55                                               ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                 ` <46DD63B6.6050406-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-04 14:16                                                   ` Sander van Leeuwen
     [not found]                                                     ` <46DD68A3.1060403-2taLTamkYL2ELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-04 14:29                                                       ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-04 14:02                                               ` Anthony Liguori
2007-09-04 14:23                                                 ` Sander van Leeuwen
     [not found]                                                   ` <46DD6A59.9000104-2taLTamkYL2ELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-04 14:51                                                     ` Anthony Liguori

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