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From: Dor Laor <dor.laor-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty-8n+1lVoiYb80n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel
	<kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>,
	lguest <lguest-mnsaURCQ41sdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	virtualization-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] virtio interace
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 13:20:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46F64BEB.8040307@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1190536431.27805.109.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>


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Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Sat, 2007-09-22 at 12:01 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>   
>> On Saturday 22 September 2007, Rusty Russell wrote:
>>     
>>> But now each virtio device has two "struct device"s, not one.   And
>>> you've made up a fictional bus to do it.
>>>
>>> Yet for PCI systems, it really is a PCI device; exposing a second bus to
>>> userspace just because we put a layer in our implementation is poor
>>> form.
>>>
>>> Perhaps this is the easiest way of doing it.  But it's still wrong.
>>>       
>> I think it's just a matter of perspective. In the model I'm advocating,
>> the PCI device is not the same as the virtio device but rather a virtio
>> host bridge, very much like USB or SATA works.
>>
>> We could easily have multiple virtio devices behind one PCI device, but
>> since virtual PCI devices are cheap, a one-to-one mapping makes sense
>> for simplicity.
>>     
>
> This is still retro-justification.  The simplest way for PCI systems to
> represent a virtio device as a PCI device; this makes life easy for any
> guest OS.
>
> I just know we're going to regret this...
> Rusty.
>
>
>   
I'm not sure what's best, maybe this can help:
With the virtio_find_driver you need to place all virtio drivers under 
the same pci device or suggest new mapping.
Using Arnd's solution (actually I implemented it for KVM before the new 
patch set) and  1-1 mapping for pci and virtio
devices makes life simpler.
Dor.


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Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-20 12:03 [PATCH 0/6] virtio with config abstraction and ring implementation Rusty Russell
     [not found] ` <1190289808.7262.223.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-20 12:09   ` [PATCH 1/6] virtio interace Rusty Russell
     [not found]     ` <1190290140.7262.228.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-20 12:12       ` [PATCH 2/6] virtio_config Rusty Russell
2007-09-20 12:14         ` [PATCH 3/6] virtio net driver Rusty Russell
2007-09-20 12:36         ` [kvm-devel] [PATCH 2/6] virtio_config Avi Kivity
     [not found]         ` <1190290369.7262.231.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-20 12:14           ` [PATCH 3/6] virtio net driver Rusty Russell
2007-09-20 12:16             ` [PATCH 4/6] virtio block driver Rusty Russell
     [not found]             ` <1190290495.7262.235.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-20 12:16               ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]                 ` <1190290606.7262.239.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-20 12:19                   ` [PATCH 5/6] virtio console driver Rusty Russell
     [not found]                     ` <1190290761.7262.242.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-20 12:27                       ` [PATCH 6/6] virtio ring helper Rusty Russell
     [not found]                         ` <1190291234.7262.246.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-20 12:43                           ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-21  2:04                             ` [kvm-devel] " Rusty Russell
     [not found]                             ` <46F26AF6.60904-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-21  2:04                               ` Rusty Russell
2007-09-23 10:05                                 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                 ` <1190340251.19451.36.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-23 10:05                                   ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-23 11:40                                     ` [kvm-devel] " Rusty Russell
     [not found]                                     ` <46F63A64.9070200-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-23 11:40                                       ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]                                         ` <1190547607.27805.120.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-23 11:46                                           ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-23 11:46                                         ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2007-09-20 12:43                         ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-20 12:27                     ` Rusty Russell
2007-09-20 12:27                   ` [PATCH 4/6] virtio block driver Jens Axboe
     [not found]                     ` <20070920122713.GK2367-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-21 12:00                       ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]                         ` <1190376007.27805.19.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-21 12:27                           ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]                             ` <20070921122746.GO2367-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-23  6:47                               ` Rusty Russell
2007-09-23  6:47                             ` Rusty Russell
2007-09-21 12:27                         ` Jens Axboe
2007-09-21 12:00                     ` Rusty Russell
2007-09-20 13:05                   ` Jens Axboe
2007-09-21  2:06                     ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]                       ` <1190340367.19451.40.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-21 11:47                         ` Jens Axboe
2007-09-21 12:30                           ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]                           ` <20070921114703.GN2367-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-21 12:30                             ` Rusty Russell
2007-09-21 11:47                       ` Jens Axboe
2007-09-20 12:19                 ` [PATCH 5/6] virtio console driver Rusty Russell
2007-09-20 12:27                 ` [PATCH 4/6] virtio block driver Jens Axboe
2007-09-20 13:05                 ` Jens Axboe
2007-09-21 10:48               ` [PATCH 3/6] virtio net driver Christian Borntraeger
2007-09-21 11:53                 ` [kvm-devel] " Rusty Russell
     [not found]                 ` <200709211248.11783.borntraeger-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-21 11:53                   ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]                     ` <1190375615.27805.9.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-21 12:36                       ` Christian Borntraeger
     [not found]                         ` <200709211436.43964.borntraeger-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-21 14:08                           ` Herbert Xu
2007-09-21 14:42                             ` [kvm-devel] " Christian Borntraeger
     [not found]                             ` <20070921140833.GA12242-lOAM2aK0SrRLBo1qDEOMRrpzq4S04n8Q@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-21 14:42                               ` Christian Borntraeger
     [not found]                                 ` <200709211642.25208.borntraeger-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-23  7:13                                   ` Rusty Russell
2007-09-23  7:13                                 ` [kvm-devel] " Rusty Russell
2007-09-21 14:08                         ` Herbert Xu
2007-09-21 12:36                     ` Christian Borntraeger
2007-09-21 10:48             ` Christian Borntraeger
2007-09-20 12:36           ` [PATCH 2/6] virtio_config Avi Kivity
     [not found]             ` <46F26958.4080102-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-20 12:55               ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-21  1:50                 ` [kvm-devel] " Rusty Russell
     [not found]                 ` <46F26DC7.9040001-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-21  1:50                   ` Rusty Russell
2007-09-22 13:03                     ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
     [not found]                     ` <1190339435.19451.23.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-22 13:03                       ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-20 12:55             ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2007-09-20 12:27       ` [PATCH 1/6] virtio interace Avi Kivity
2007-09-21 11:37         ` [kvm-devel] " Rusty Russell
2007-09-21 12:05       ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]         ` <200709211405.32116.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-21 12:45           ` Rusty Russell
2007-09-21 14:22             ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]             ` <1190378736.27805.54.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-21 14:22               ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-09-22  9:55                 ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]                   ` <1190454934.27805.80.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-22 10:01                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-09-23  8:33                       ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]                       ` <200709221201.33865.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-23  8:33                         ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]                           ` <1190536431.27805.109.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-23 11:20                             ` Dor Laor [this message]
2007-09-23 11:20                           ` Dor Laor
2007-09-22 10:01                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-09-21 12:45         ` Rusty Russell
2007-09-20 12:12     ` [PATCH 2/6] virtio_config Rusty Russell
2007-09-20 12:27     ` [kvm-devel] [PATCH 1/6] virtio interace Avi Kivity
2007-09-21 12:05     ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-09-20 13:43   ` [PATCH 0/6] virtio with config abstraction and ring implementation Dor Laor
2007-09-20 13:50     ` [Lguest] [PATCH 0/6] virtio with config abstraction and ringimplementation Dor Laor
     [not found]     ` <46F2791A.8070601-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-20 13:50       ` Dor Laor
2007-09-21  3:20     ` [PATCH 0/6] virtio with config abstraction and ring implementation Rusty Russell
2007-09-20 12:09 ` [PATCH 1/6] virtio interace Rusty Russell
2007-09-20 13:43 ` [PATCH 0/6] virtio with config abstraction and ring implementation Dor Laor

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