From: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Paul Menage <menage-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Linux Containers
<containers-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org>,
Balbir Singh
<balbir-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
Christoph Lameter <clameter-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [Devel] [PATCH 0/5] Kernel memory accounting container (v5)
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 16:51:10 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47023EBE.7000708@openvz.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6599ad830710010932t150aba2eid18864a90f169c64-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
Paul Menage wrote:
> Hi Pavel,
>
> One question about the general design of this - have you tested an
> approach where rather than tagging each object within the cache with
> the cgroup that allocated it, you instead have (inside the cache code)
> a separate cache structure for each cgroup? So the space overheads
> would go from having a per-object overhead (one pointer per object?)
> to having a "wastage" overhead (on average half a slab per cgroup).
> And the time overhead would be the time required to lookup the
> relevant cache for a cgroup at the start of the allocation operation,
> and the relevant cache for an object (from its struct page) at
> deallocation, rather then the time required to update the per-object
> housekeeping pointer.
Such a lookup would require a hastable or something similar. We already
have such a bad experience (with OpenVZ RSS fractions accounting for
example). Hash lookups imply the CPU caches screwup and hurt the performance.
See also the comment below.
> Each cache would need to be assigned a unique ID, used as an index
> into a per-cgroup lookup table of localized caches. (This could almost
> be regarded as a form of kmem_cache namespace).
>
> It seems to me that this alternative approach would be a lower memory
> overhead for people who have the kernel memory controller compiled in
> but aren't using it, or are only using a few groups.
I thought the same some time ago and tried to make a per-beancounter kmem
caches. The result was awful - the memory waste was much larger than in the
case of pointer-per-object approach. Let alone the performance questions -
each kmalloc required a synchronized hash table lookup that was too bad.
If you insist I can try to repeat the experiment, but I'm afraid the result
would be the same.
> Paul
>
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2007-09-25 14:16 [PATCH 0/5] Kernel memory accounting container (v5) Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <46F91841.9070708-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-25 14:18 ` [PATCH 1/5] Add notification about some major slab events Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <46F91898.5060400-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-25 21:47 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0709251445400.5072-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-26 9:37 ` Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <46FA285B.5060709-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-26 17:31 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0709261030270.15435-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-27 8:25 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-10-01 11:55 ` Balbir Singh
[not found] ` <4700E03B.6000102-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-01 12:13 ` Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <4700E477.2060607-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-01 12:32 ` Balbir Singh
[not found] ` <4700E8F2.7000206-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-01 12:57 ` Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <4700EEAE.1090208-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-01 13:03 ` Balbir Singh
2007-09-25 14:19 ` [PATCH 2/5] Generic notifiers for SLUB events Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <46F918D9.3020406-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-01 13:05 ` Balbir Singh
[not found] ` <4700F083.1070706-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-01 13:07 ` Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <4700F120.2070302-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-01 20:39 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-25 14:22 ` [PATCH 3/5] Switch caches notification dynamically Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <46F919BB.2000701-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-25 21:48 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0709251447560.5072-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-26 9:39 ` Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <46FA28C9.9060101-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-26 17:30 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0709261029300.15435-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-27 8:24 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-10-01 13:15 ` Balbir Singh
[not found] ` <4700F2E8.5050904-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-01 13:19 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-10-01 13:21 ` Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <4700F476.4070806-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-01 13:38 ` Balbir Singh
[not found] ` <4700F85B.5090902-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-01 13:45 ` Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <4700FA0A.5040707-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-01 14:14 ` Balbir Singh
[not found] ` <470100D0.7030700-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-01 15:45 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-10-01 20:39 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-25 14:24 ` [PATCH 4/5] Setup the control group Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <46F91A1E.2060303-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-01 13:48 ` Balbir Singh
[not found] ` <4700FAAC.2050004-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-01 13:51 ` Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <4700FB72.5070409-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-01 14:16 ` Balbir Singh
[not found] ` <4701013A.3010307-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-01 14:17 ` Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <47010169.5040102-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-01 14:21 ` Balbir Singh
[not found] ` <47010276.8060802-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-01 14:27 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-10-01 15:50 ` [Devel] " Paul Menage
[not found] ` <6599ad830710010850q660d042av9fa5a461d3c3e445-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-01 15:53 ` Balbir Singh
[not found] ` <47011812.2010406-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-01 16:04 ` Paul Menage
2007-10-01 15:52 ` Paul Menage
2007-09-25 14:26 ` [PATCH 5/5] Account for the slub objects Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <46F91A8A.9000001-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-01 14:07 ` Balbir Singh
[not found] ` <4700FF1F.7060604-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-01 14:10 ` Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <4700FFC3.7050005-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-01 20:41 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0710011341000.19779-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-02 12:44 ` Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <47023D18.3090304-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-02 18:04 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0710021104000.30559-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-03 7:29 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-10-01 14:12 ` [PATCH 0/5] Kernel memory accounting container (v5) Balbir Singh
[not found] ` <4701006B.6050809-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-01 15:43 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-10-01 16:32 ` [Devel] " Paul Menage
[not found] ` <6599ad830710010932t150aba2eid18864a90f169c64-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-02 12:51 ` Pavel Emelyanov [this message]
[not found] ` <47023EBE.7000708-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-05 7:11 ` Paul Menage
[not found] ` <6599ad830710050011x68a80013w3b60d663e2c087a-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-05 13:17 ` Pavel Emelyanov
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