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From: Ethan Solomita <solo@google.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/6] cpuset write throttle
Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 12:34:11 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <470691B3.50802@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1191483450.13204.96.camel@twins>

Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> 
> currently:
> 
>   limit = total_limit * p_bdi * (1 - p_task/8)
> 
> suggestion:
> 
>   limit = total_limit * p_bdi * (1 - p_task/8) * (1 - p_cpuset/4)
>
> Another option would be:
> 
>   limit = cpuset_limit * p_bdi * (1 - p_task/8)
> 


	A cpuset's relationship with memory is typically rather different than
a process's relationship with a bdi. A bdi is typically shared between
independent processes, making a proportion the right choice. A cpuset is
often set up with exclusive memory nodes. i.e. the only processes which
can allocate from a node of memory are those within this one cpuset.

	In that context, we already know the proportion. It's the size of the
nodes in mems_allowed. And we also know the number of dirty pages. Do
you agree that a formal proportion is unneeded?

	i.e. the cpuset_limit would be the sum of available memory across all
of mems_allowed nodes, times the ratio (e.g. 40%). This seems to fit
best into your second suggestion. My main concern is the scenario  where
the bdi is highly utilized, but by other cpusets. Preferably, that high
p_bdi should not prevent this cpuset from dirtying a few pages.

	What if the bdi held an array ala numdirty[MAX_NUMNODES] and then
avoided throttling if numdirty[thisnode] / bdi_totdirty is below a
threshold? Ideally we'd keep track of it per-cpuset, not per-node, but
cpusets are volatile so that could become complicated.

	I'm just brainstorming here, so the above is just a suggestion.
	-- Ethan

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-10-05 19:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-17 21:23 [PATCH 0/6] cpuset aware writeback Ethan Solomita
2007-07-17 21:23 ` Ethan Solomita
2007-07-17 21:32 ` [PATCH 1/6] cpuset write dirty map Ethan Solomita
2007-07-17 21:32   ` Ethan Solomita
2007-07-17 21:33 ` [PATCH 2/6] cpuset write pdflush nodemask Ethan Solomita
2007-07-17 21:33   ` Ethan Solomita
2007-07-17 21:34 ` [PATCH 3/6] cpuset write throttle Ethan Solomita
2007-07-17 21:34   ` Ethan Solomita
2007-07-17 21:35 ` [PATCH 4/6] cpuset write vmscan Ethan Solomita
2007-07-17 21:35   ` Ethan Solomita
2007-07-17 21:36 ` [PATCH 5/6] cpuset write vm writeout Ethan Solomita
2007-07-17 21:36   ` Ethan Solomita
2007-07-17 21:37 ` [PATCH 6/6] cpuset dirty limits Ethan Solomita
2007-07-17 21:37   ` Ethan Solomita
2007-07-23 20:18 ` [PATCH 0/6] cpuset aware writeback Christoph Lameter
2007-07-23 20:18   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-23 21:30   ` Ethan Solomita
2007-07-23 21:30     ` Ethan Solomita
2007-07-23 21:53     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-23 21:53       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-12  1:32 ` Ethan Solomita
2007-09-12  1:32   ` Ethan Solomita
2007-09-12  1:36   ` [PATCH 1/6] cpuset write dirty map Ethan Solomita
2007-09-14 23:15     ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-14 23:15       ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-14 23:47       ` Satyam Sharma
2007-09-14 23:47         ` Satyam Sharma
2007-09-15  0:07         ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-15  0:07           ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-15  0:16           ` Satyam Sharma
2007-09-15  0:16             ` Satyam Sharma
2007-09-17 18:37             ` Mike Travis
2007-09-17 18:37               ` Mike Travis
2007-09-17 19:10       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-17 19:10         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19  0:51       ` Ethan Solomita
2007-09-19  0:51         ` Ethan Solomita
2007-09-19  2:14         ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-19  2:14           ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-19 17:08           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 17:08             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 17:06         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 17:06           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-12  1:38   ` [PATCH 2/6] cpuset write pdflush nodemask Ethan Solomita
2007-09-12  1:38     ` Ethan Solomita
2007-09-12  1:39   ` [PATCH 3/6] cpuset write throttle Ethan Solomita
2007-09-12  1:39     ` Ethan Solomita
     [not found]     ` <20070914161517.5ea3847f.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
2007-10-03  0:38       ` Ethan Solomita
2007-10-03 17:46         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-03 20:46           ` Ethan Solomita
2007-10-04  3:56             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-04  7:37               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-04  7:56                 ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-04  8:15                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-04  8:25                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-04  9:06                       ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-04  9:04                     ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-05 19:34                 ` Ethan Solomita [this message]
2007-09-12  1:40   ` [PATCH 4/6] cpuset write vmscan Ethan Solomita
2007-09-12  1:40     ` Ethan Solomita
2007-09-12  1:41   ` [PATCH 5/6] cpuset write vm writeout Ethan Solomita
2007-09-12  1:41     ` Ethan Solomita
2007-09-12  1:42   ` [PATCH 6/6] cpuset dirty limits Ethan Solomita
2007-09-12  1:42     ` Ethan Solomita
2007-09-14 23:15     ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-14 23:15       ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-17 19:00       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-17 19:00         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19  0:23         ` Ethan Solomita
2007-09-19  0:23           ` Ethan Solomita

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