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From: "Marco C. Coelho" <maillist1@argontech.net>
To: lartc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [LARTC] neighbor table overflow
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:08:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4720B160.6060602@argontech.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200710230146.27081.peet@altlinux.org>


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Looking into it further an ip route shows:

64.0.0.0/8 via 64.202.224.1 dev eth0  proto zebra  metric 20 equalize

So the 64.0.0.0 announce is coming into this box through OSPF  (zebra)

The 169.254.0.0/16 is being automajically added through the sysconfig 
network scripts.  I'm looking into why.

In either case I still don't see why these entries would make the 
neighbor table overflow.  Could it have been the previous fix to the 
hosts file?

mc

Alexandru Dragoi wrote:
> Marco C. Coelho wrote:
>   
>> the ip route with a grep for link returns:
>>
>> snip** too long
>> 64.202.227.198 dev ppp436  proto kernel  scope link  src 10.20.1.1
>> 64.202.227.196 dev ppp421  proto kernel  scope link  src 10.20.1.1
>> 64.202.227.197 dev ppp211  proto kernel  scope link  src 10.20.0.1
>> 64.202.227.194 dev ppp13  proto kernel  scope link  src 10.20.1.1
>> 64.202.227.192 dev ppp404  proto kernel  scope link  src 10.20.1.1
>> 64.202.227.254 dev ppp194  proto kernel  scope link  src 10.20.1.1
>> 64.202.227.253 dev ppp130  proto kernel  scope link  src 10.20.1.1
>> 64.202.227.252 dev ppp243  proto kernel  scope link  src 10.20.1.1
>> 64.202.227.249 dev ppp195  proto kernel  scope link  src 10.20.1.1
>> 64.202.227.248 dev ppp254  proto kernel  scope link  src 10.20.1.1
>> 64.202.227.247 dev ppp235  proto kernel  scope link  src 10.20.1.1
>> 64.202.227.242 dev ppp78  proto kernel  scope link  src 10.20.1.1
>> 64.202.227.240 dev ppp328  proto kernel  scope link  src 10.20.1.1
>> 64.202.227.237 dev ppp44  proto kernel  scope link  src 10.20.1.1
>> 64.202.227.236 dev ppp122  proto kernel  scope link  src 10.20.1.1
>> 64.202.227.234 dev ppp316  proto kernel  scope link  src 10.20.1.1
>> 64.202.227.232 dev ppp132  proto kernel  scope link  src 10.20.1.1
>> 64.202.227.231 dev ppp104  proto kernel  scope link  src 10.20.0.1
>> 64.202.227.226 dev ppp179  proto kernel  scope link  src 10.20.0.1
>> 64.202.224.0/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 64.202.224.8
>> 192.168.1.0/24 dev eth3  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.1.8
>> 169.254.0.0/16 dev eth3  scope link
>>     
>
> The one above must be deleted, many redhat-like distros attach
> 169.254.0.0/16.
>   
>> All the pppoe terminations (pppd) are shown, as well as the last three
>> subnets.  I'll have to see where the 169.254.0.0/16 is coming from?
>>
>> mc
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Alexandru Dragoi wrote:
>>     
>>> Marco C. Coelho wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> This box is doing a lot.  It terminates 1000 PPPoE connections,
>>>> provides traffic shaping using TC/HTB, authenticates all users via
>>>> Radius.  It also runs OSPF routing for the internal network.  Looking
>>>> at a simple route output I see all the PPP connections coming through
>>>> the box, and due to the OSPF I also see the rest of my network
>>>> announcements.  The only strange things are:
>>>>
>>>> 1.  The last man working on this box had mistakenly edited the hosts
>>>> file and added the machine name and complete domain name to the local
>>>> host 127.0.0.1 name.  It should only be pointed to the eth0
>>>> interface.   I have changed this.
>>>>
>>>> 2.  The route output is making an announcement
>>>>
>>>>    64.0.0.0        argontech.net   255.0.0.0       UG    20    
>>>> 0        0 eth0
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> This doesn't look dangerous for your problem, I was only talking about
>>> directly connected networks:
>>>
>>> # ip route |grep link
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> My public IP space is a /20 within that space, not the whole Class A. 
>>>> I have not found which box is announcing this within my network yet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jeff Welling wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>> On 10/23/07 06:56, Alexandru Dragoi wrote:
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> What about checking your routing table? you may have link routes
>>>>>>> for massive subnets (like 85.0.0.0/8 or 140.20.0.0/16). Some
>>>>>>> programs prefer to use "standard" netmask of classes A and B.
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> I'm betting that the OP has other things going on seeing has how
>>>>>> s/he mentioned PPPoE, which to my knowledge is a layer 2 protocol,
>>>>>> and thus not subject to typical routing scenarios.  In essence the
>>>>>> OP could have thousands of PPPoE connections terminating on one
>>>>>> system with the ARP cache having to deal with where to send traffic
>>>>>> to which MAC address. There is not a lot of room for routing in such
>>>>>> a scenario.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>> I agree with Peter's suggestion, arpd.  I ran into the neighbor table
>>>>> overflow problem recently, at the hands of our ISP.  I was in the
>>>>> process of recompiling the kernel and mucking with arpd (I couldn't
>>>>> get it to run/start properly) when the problem disappeared as quickly
>>>>> as it showed up.  Lucky for me, this was some kind of ISP problem, I
>>>>> was able to determine that much through `tcpdump -i X -n arpd`.
>>>>>
>>>>> My 'two cents' is that you try arpd, I did a bit of looking when I
>>>>> came across that problem and it seemed to be the last ditch effort
>>>>> when changing the gc threshold had no effect.  Wasn't able to confirm
>>>>> that it worked for sure though.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-10-25 15:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-22 21:46 [LARTC] neighbor table overflow Peter V. Saveliev
2007-10-22 21:46 ` Marco C. Coelho
2007-10-22 22:35 ` Grant Taylor
2007-10-23 11:56 ` Alexandru Dragoi
2007-10-23 20:32 ` Grant Taylor
2007-10-23 20:43 ` Jeff Welling
2007-10-23 21:04 ` Grant Taylor
2007-10-23 21:10 ` Marco C. Coelho
2007-10-23 21:23 ` Grant Taylor
2007-10-23 21:27 ` Marco C. Coelho
2007-10-24 10:19 ` Alexandru Dragoi
2007-10-24 15:19 ` Marco C. Coelho
2007-10-24 16:06 ` Alexandru Dragoi
2007-10-25 15:08 ` Marco C. Coelho [this message]
2007-10-25 16:30 ` Alexandru Dragoi
2007-11-19 22:36 ` Marco C. Coelho
2007-11-19 23:15 ` darko
2007-12-07 17:17 ` Marco C. Coelho

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