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From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>
Cc: Luca Berra <bluca@comedia.it>, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Raid-10 mount at startup always has problem
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:21:34 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4725278E.1050306@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1193426793.10336.302.camel@firewall.xsintricity.com>

Doug Ledford wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 11:15 +0200, Luca Berra wrote:
>   
>> On Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 02:40:06AM -0400, Doug Ledford wrote:
>>     
>>> The partition table is the single, (mostly) universally recognized
>>> arbiter of what possible data might be on the disk.  Having a partition
>>> table may not make mdadm recognize the md superblock any better, but it
>>> keeps all that other stuff from even trying to access data that it
>>> doesn't have a need to access and prevents random luck from turning your
>>> day bad.
>>>       
>> on a pc maybe, but that is 20 years old design.
>>     
>
> So?  Unix is 35+ year old design, I suppose you want to switch to Vista
> then?
>
>   
>> partition table design is limited because it is still based on C/H/S,
>> which do not exist anymore.
>> Put a partition table on a big storage, say a DMX, and enjoy a 20%
>> performance decrease.
>>     
>
> Because you didn't stripe align the partition, your bad.
>   
Align to /what/ stripe? Hardware (CHS is fiction), software (of the RAID 
you're about to create), or ??? I don't notice my FC6 or FC7 install 
programs using any special partition location to start, I have only run 
(tried to run) FC8-test3 for the live CD, so I can't say what it might 
do. CentOS4 didn't do anything obvious, either, so unless I really 
misunderstand your position at redhat, that would be your bad.  ;-)

If you mean start a partition on a pseudo-CHS boundary, fdisk seems to 
use what it thinks are cylinders for that.

Please clarify what alignment provides a performance benefit.

-- 
bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
  CTO TMR Associates, Inc
  Doing interesting things with small computers since 1979


  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-10-29  0:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-27 18:14 Raid-10 mount at startup always has problem Daniel L. Miller
     [not found] ` <46D49F1A.7030409@tmr.com>
2007-09-10  1:53   ` Daniel L. Miller
2007-09-10  2:04     ` Richard Scobie
     [not found]     ` <46E4A5F0.9090407@sauce.co.nz>
2007-09-10  2:11       ` Daniel L. Miller
2007-10-24 14:22         ` Daniel L. Miller
2007-10-24 16:25           ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-24 20:01           ` Bill Davidsen
2007-10-25  5:43             ` Daniel L. Miller
2007-10-25  6:40               ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-26  9:15                 ` Luca Berra
2007-10-26 16:53                   ` Gabor Gombas
2007-10-27  7:57                     ` Luca Berra
2007-10-26 19:26                   ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-27  7:50                     ` Luca Berra
2007-10-27 15:07                       ` Gabor Gombas
2007-10-27 20:47                       ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-28 13:37                         ` Luca Berra
2007-10-28 17:55                           ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-29  0:21                     ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2007-10-29  7:41                       ` Luca Berra
2007-10-29 13:22                         ` Bill Davidsen
2007-10-29 15:21                           ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-29 15:54                         ` Gabor Gombas
2007-10-29 14:31                       ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-29  5:59                 ` Daniel L. Miller
2007-10-29  8:18                   ` Luca Berra
2007-10-29 15:47                     ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-29 21:29                       ` Luca Berra
2007-10-29 23:15                         ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-30  0:03                           ` Daniel L. Miller
2007-11-01 13:56                             ` Bill Davidsen
2007-12-17 14:58                             ` Daniel L. Miller
2007-10-29 17:08                   ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-29 18:56                   ` Richard Scobie
2007-10-25  6:12           ` Neil Brown
2007-10-25  6:51             ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-25 13:13             ` Daniel L. Miller
2007-10-25 13:33             ` Daniel L. Miller
2007-10-26  6:12               ` Neil Brown
2007-10-25 14:46             ` Bill Davidsen
2007-10-25 16:13               ` Daniel L. Miller
2007-10-26  5:59               ` Neil Brown

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