From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <2F7D63A21DB2C74EB8EB8C09AF667DB0130D1AF1@eitc220.eitc.epson.com> From: "Petrie, Glen" Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 11:18:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C81B21.4ADD0448" Subject: [Printing-architecture] The new "OpenPrinting Testing and Certification Program" Web Page List-Id: Printing architecture under linux List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Till Kamppeter Cc: printing-architecture@lists.linux-foundation.org, Printing-japan , printing-summit@lists.linux-foundation.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C81B21.4ADD0448 Content-Type: text/plain Till, I just noticed on the OpenPrinting web page a new page on "OpenPrinting Testing and Certification Program" with the expressed goal Here we will develop a distribution-independent testing and certification program for printers and printer drivers. The goal of this program is that LSB-certified printer + LSB-certified OS distribution = Just works! It should be agreed on a test program which covers use cases appropriate to the printers and gives ratings on how well the functionalities of the printer work with free Linux/Unix operating systems. The results should be published in the linuxprinting.org printer database. ... and the section ... Certification A printer should be certified by FSG OpenPrinting when it succeeds in the tests and when the driver is either in the standard repertoire of the distributions, downloadable as distribution-independent package from linuxprinting.org or coming as distribution-independent package with the printer, so that the printer installs out-of-the-box from any LSB-compliant distribution. I am a little surprised to see this page with goal. At the last two summit meetings, the Printer Manufactures all agreed that they did not support an "OpenPrinting Testing and Certification Program" but would support a "Self Validation Program". As a member of the Open Printing Steering Committee I don't remember the discussion of having an "OpenPrinting Testing and Certification Program". Can you clarify if the page promoting a "Certification Program" or a "Self-Validation Program"? If the intent is a "Self-Validation Program", then I would encourage you to change the wording. If the intent is to be a "Certification Program" I would like to know if printer manufactures are willing to support it. See: http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/TestingCertification ------_=_NextPart_001_01C81B21.4ADD0448 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Till,

 

I just noticed on the OpenPrinting web page a new = page on "OpenPrinting Testing and Certification Program" with the expressed = goal

 

Here we will develop a = distribution-independent testing and certification program for printers and printer drivers. The = goal of this program is that

LSB-certified = printer + LSB-certified OS distribution =3D Just works!

It should be agreed on a test program which = covers use cases appropriate to the printers and gives ratings on how well the functionalities of the printer work with free Linux/Unix operating = systems. The results should be published in the linuxprinting.org printer database. =

… and the section = …

Certification

A printer should be certified by FSG = OpenPrinting when it succeeds in the tests and when the driver is either in the standard repertoire of the distributions, downloadable as = distribution-independent package from linuxprinting.org or coming as distribution-independent = package with the printer, so that the printer installs out-of-the-box from any LSB-compliant distribution.

 

I am a little surprised to see this page with goal.   At the last two summit meetings, the Printer = Manufactures all agreed that they did not support an "OpenPrinting Testing and Certification Program" but would support a “Self Validation = Program”.   As a member of the Open Printing Steering Committee I don’t = remember the discussion of having an "OpenPrinting Testing and Certification Program".  

 

Can you clarify if the page promoting a = “Certification Program” or a “Self-Validation Program”?   = If the intent is a “Self-Validation Program”, then I would = encourage you to change the wording.  If the intent is to be a = “Certification Program” I would like to know if printer manufactures are willing = to support it.

 

 

 

See: http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/TestingCertificati= on

------_=_NextPart_001_01C81B21.4ADD0448-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yo3vcCnbtNabNbA5MMAsW2N37BBtohNCJPZU5dVuOWk=; b=aEi1kfXVF3qOcBPJlND4YVMNr7s2y7yioOjc8aVnFG0nkld6P73xCcw9AY1m9p4aYdff9aN0G4lvij/ya4xXRAoJtmfxwlv1MKIJrz5FXP/CXf1hS8TsEe0FyfdGB2x6q0LNrDIhNJidNDib81XwVIckasg2ZapwkP2z3at1KnE= Message-ID: <4727BBE2.4050301@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:18:58 +0900 From: Till Kamppeter MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2F7D63A21DB2C74EB8EB8C09AF667DB0130D1AF1@eitc220.eitc.epson.com> In-Reply-To: <2F7D63A21DB2C74EB8EB8C09AF667DB0130D1AF1@eitc220.eitc.epson.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [Printing-architecture] Re: The new "OpenPrinting Testing and Certification Program" Web Page List-Id: Printing architecture under linux List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: "Petrie, Glen" Cc: printing-architecture@lists.linux-foundation.org, Printing-japan , printing-summit@lists.linux-foundation.org This page is old/obsolete (last edited Aug 2006). It needs to be updated with the results we obtain this Friday here in Tokyo. Till Petrie, Glen wrote: > Till, > > > > I just noticed on the OpenPrinting web page a new page on "OpenPrinting > Testing and Certification Program" with the expressed goal > > > > Here we will develop a distribution-independent testing and > certification program for printers and printer drivers. The goal of this > program is that > > *LSB-certified printer + LSB-certified OS distribution = Just works!* > > It should be agreed on a test program which covers use cases appropriate > to the printers and gives ratings on how well the functionalities of the > printer work with free Linux/Unix operating systems. The results should > be published in the linuxprinting.org printer database. > > … and the section … > > > *Certification * > > A printer should be certified by FSG OpenPrinting when it succeeds in > the tests and when the driver is either in the standard repertoire of > the distributions, downloadable as distribution-independent package from > linuxprinting.org or coming as distribution-independent package with the > printer, so that the printer installs out-of-the-box from any > LSB-compliant distribution. > > > > I am a little surprised to see this page with goal. At the last two > summit meetings, the Printer Manufactures all agreed that they did not > support an "OpenPrinting Testing and Certification Program" but would > support a “Self Validation Program”. As a member of the Open Printing > Steering Committee I don’t remember the discussion of having an > "OpenPrinting Testing and Certification Program". > > > > Can you clarify if the page promoting a “Certification Program” or a > “Self-Validation Program”? If the intent is a “Self-Validation > Program”, then I would encourage you to change the wording. If the > intent is to be a “Certification Program” I would like to know if > printer manufactures are willing to support it. > > > > > > > > See: http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/TestingCertification > From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:08:21 +0900 From: "SHIDA, Keisho" In-Reply-To: <4727BBE2.4050301@gmail.com> References: <2F7D63A21DB2C74EB8EB8C09AF667DB0130D1AF1@eitc220.eitc.epson.com> <4727BBE2.4050301@gmail.com> Message-Id: <20071031100252.EAAD.SHIDA.KEISHO@canon.co.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Printing-architecture] Re: [Printing-japan] Re: The new "OpenPrinting Testing and Certification Program" Web Page List-Id: Printing architecture under linux List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Till Kamppeter Cc: "Petrie, Glen" , printing-architecture@lists.linux-foundation.org, Printing-japan , printing-summit@lists.linux-foundation.org Till: Please act one of the following item immediately. We believe that it mislead the people have no back ground of these discussion 1. Delete the pages 2. Date it as you described if it was available in August 2006 but we never seen as Glen. Thank you. Shida === On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:18:58 +0900 Till Kamppeter wrote: > This page is old/obsolete (last edited Aug 2006). It needs to be updated > with the results we obtain this Friday here in Tokyo. > > Till > > Petrie, Glen wrote: > > Till, > > > > > > > > I just noticed on the OpenPrinting web page a new page on "OpenPrinting > > Testing and Certification Program" with the expressed goal > > > > > > > > Here we will develop a distribution-independent testing and > > certification program for printers and printer drivers. The goal of this > > program is that > > > > *LSB-certified printer + LSB-certified OS distribution = Just works!* > > > > It should be agreed on a test program which covers use cases appropriate > > to the printers and gives ratings on how well the functionalities of the > > printer work with free Linux/Unix operating systems. The results should > > be published in the linuxprinting.org printer database. > > > > $B!D(B and the section $B!D(B > > > > > > *Certification * > > > > A printer should be certified by FSG OpenPrinting when it succeeds in > > the tests and when the driver is either in the standard repertoire of > > the distributions, downloadable as distribution-independent package from > > linuxprinting.org or coming as distribution-independent package with the > > printer, so that the printer installs out-of-the-box from any > > LSB-compliant distribution. > > > > > > > > I am a little surprised to see this page with goal. At the last two > > summit meetings, the Printer Manufactures all agreed that they did not > > support an "OpenPrinting Testing and Certification Program" but would > > support a $B!H(BSelf Validation Program$B!I(B. As a member of the Open Printing > > Steering Committee I don$B!G(Bt remember the discussion of having an > > "OpenPrinting Testing and Certification Program". > > > > > > > > Can you clarify if the page promoting a $B!H(BCertification Program$B!I(B or a > > $B!H(BSelf-Validation Program$B!I(B? If the intent is a $B!H(BSelf-Validation > > Program$B!I(B, then I would encourage you to change the wording. If the > > intent is to be a $B!H(BCertification Program$B!I(B I would like to know if > > printer manufactures are willing to support it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See: http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/TestingCertification > > > > _______________________________________________ > Printing-japan mailing list > Printing-japan@lists.linux-foundation.org > https://lists.linux-foundation.org/mailman/listinfo/printing-japan From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yt4UOl6a2ZyEI2ASLf0AC65g/Ut/z7m9AKTpvacfm3c=; b=UyTnSXDZ+6uUQGdRNZ02UOXMIMatjn7uxv0WkB8Ko1paWdV+QFGL6UQb5x0W0l7mPgQiNiwv5T5PkWgH1aZ8SygiBWyDn0q7fBYNNkjjT2laTCFgXI798JaAtzzxgIfMrvQZZTHhDIhLfC8d176Ij2R5oD0/qmOp4Cbt2jxRTSg= Message-ID: <4728EFBB.1070200@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 06:12:27 +0900 From: Till Kamppeter MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2F7D63A21DB2C74EB8EB8C09AF667DB0130D1AF1@eitc220.eitc.epson.com> <4727BBE2.4050301@gmail.com> <20071031100252.EAAD.SHIDA.KEISHO@canon.co.jp> In-Reply-To: <20071031100252.EAAD.SHIDA.KEISHO@canon.co.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [Printing-architecture] Re: [Printing-japan] Re: The new "OpenPrinting Testing and Certification Program" Web Page List-Id: Printing architecture under linux List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: "SHIDA, Keisho" Cc: "Petrie, Glen" , printing-architecture@lists.linux-foundation.org, Printing-japan , printing-summit@lists.linux-foundation.org I have added a note to the page now. It will be updated after the Tokyo OpenPrinting Meeting. Till SHIDA, Keisho wrote: > Till: > > Please act one of the following item immediately. > We believe that it mislead the people have no back ground of these discussion > > 1. Delete the pages > 2. Date it as you described if it was available in August 2006 but we never seen as Glen. > > Thank you. > > > Shida > === > > On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:18:58 +0900 > Till Kamppeter wrote: > >> This page is old/obsolete (last edited Aug 2006). It needs to be updated >> with the results we obtain this Friday here in Tokyo. >> >> Till >> >> Petrie, Glen wrote: >>> Till, >>> >>> >>> >>> I just noticed on the OpenPrinting web page a new page on "OpenPrinting >>> Testing and Certification Program" with the expressed goal >>> >>> >>> >>> Here we will develop a distribution-independent testing and >>> certification program for printers and printer drivers. The goal of this >>> program is that >>> >>> *LSB-certified printer + LSB-certified OS distribution = Just works!* >>> >>> It should be agreed on a test program which covers use cases appropriate >>> to the printers and gives ratings on how well the functionalities of the >>> printer work with free Linux/Unix operating systems. The results should >>> be published in the linuxprinting.org printer database. >>> >>> … and the section … >>> >>> >>> *Certification * >>> >>> A printer should be certified by FSG OpenPrinting when it succeeds in >>> the tests and when the driver is either in the standard repertoire of >>> the distributions, downloadable as distribution-independent package from >>> linuxprinting.org or coming as distribution-independent package with the >>> printer, so that the printer installs out-of-the-box from any >>> LSB-compliant distribution. >>> >>> >>> >>> I am a little surprised to see this page with goal. At the last two >>> summit meetings, the Printer Manufactures all agreed that they did not >>> support an "OpenPrinting Testing and Certification Program" but would >>> support a “Self Validation Program”. As a member of the Open Printing >>> Steering Committee I don’t remember the discussion of having an >>> "OpenPrinting Testing and Certification Program". >>> >>> >>> >>> Can you clarify if the page promoting a “Certification Program” or a >>> “Self-Validation Program”? If the intent is a “Self-Validation >>> Program”, then I would encourage you to change the wording. If the >>> intent is to be a “Certification Program” I would like to know if >>> printer manufactures are willing to support it. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> See: http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/TestingCertification >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Printing-japan mailing list >> Printing-japan@lists.linux-foundation.org >> https://lists.linux-foundation.org/mailman/listinfo/printing-japan > > > >