From: Philippe Gerum <rpm@xenomai.org>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@domain.hid>
Cc: xenomai@xenomai.org
Subject: Re: [Xenomai-core] [Xenomai-commits] r3147 - __xn_access_ok changes
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:06:56 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <472FA210.7030904@domain.hid> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <472F6CE1.7050208@domain.hid>
Jan Kiszka wrote:
> Philippe Gerum wrote:
>> Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
>>> Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>> > [Let's discuss this without bothering users :)]
>>> >
>>> > Philippe Gerum wrote:
>>> > > Author: rpm
>>> > > Date: Sun Nov 4 18:18:39 2007
>>> > > New Revision: 3147
>>> > >
>>> > > URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/xenomai?rev=3147&view=rev
>>> > > Log:
>>> > > Make __xn_access_ok() return false for addresses lower than the natural page size.
>>> > >
>>> > > Modified:
>>> > > trunk/ChangeLog
>>> > > trunk/include/asm-x86/syscall_32.h
>>> > > trunk/include/asm-x86/syscall_64.h
>>> >
>>> > Could it be that you meant "PAGE_SIZE" instead of "PAGE_OFFSET"? Because
>>> > the current version is "slightly" broken, tagging any address in user
>>> > land as invalid.
>>> >
>> Another example that committing last minute "fixes" before leaving for a
>> trip is just as safe as checking for your parachute _after_ you jumped
>> out of the plane. Fixed the trivial way for now. Sorry for this.
>>
>>> > And if this test was meant to catch NULL page accesses early, is the
>>> > intention to cope with all those current i-pipe patches that do not yet
>>> > include the discussed domain switch on non-root faults? If yes, this
>>> > test would be a workaround for legacy code and should not become default
>>> > (pure overhead for later versions).
>>>
>>> We can reduce the overhead of the two tests by testing
>>> (unsigned long) (addr - PAGE_SIZE) < (PAGE_OFFSET - PAGE_SIZE)
>>>
>> Yep. I'd rather keep the reference to the actual task's segment limit in
>> this expression though, instead of hardcoding PAGE_OFFSET.
>>
>> Aside of this, we should not need to pass the current task pointer to
>> each and every syscall anymore, so we may rely on the original uaccess code.
>>
>> __xn_access_ok was there to allow for passing the task pointer
>> explicitly in order to test the address range against the task's segment
>> limit, at times when Adeos would switch the underlying stack to some
>> private, non-Linux one.
>>
>> With modern I-pipe, domains don't have any private stack, but simply
>> reuse the current one, which means that any task running a syscall
>> over the Xenomai domain may always be referenced by "current", including
>> on archs using the stack pointer trick to determine this value.
>>
>> I'll do this change early in the 2.5 series; it's too late for 2.4.
>>
>> This said, we'll still need __xn_access_ok from now on, to pre-test the
>> address for obvious spuriousness, like the NULL case which started this
>> discussion.
>
> ...which still doesn't answer my original question: Is the current
> (virtually fixed - please fix in real-life soon!) version a legacy
> wrapper for you? Because I still don't see the need for it with, e.g.,
> my latest patch for i386-ipipe.
I usually refrain from rehashing the obvious, but here it comes anyway:
yes, it's a work around, because we have more than 340 older I-pipe
patches out there for a number of archs, and leaving the possibility for
lockups with those just due to some uncaught NULL pointer would be bad
policy. And yes, it adds a few cycles more to the hot path for that
reason, so we may want to make this conditional -- albeit the fixes are
functionally quite different, and getting -EFAULT at application level
may give a better debugging help than relying on CONFIG_IPIPE_DEBUG and
looking at the kernel log periodically, at least for most common error
cases like NULL pointers.
As a matter of fact, there is not a single I-pipe patch officially
released which implements the fixup I've been talking about yesterday
yet, therefore, no time is lost for making the uaccess trick conditional.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-05 23:06 UTC|newest]
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2007-11-04 21:19 ` [Xenomai-core] [Xenomai-commits] r3147 - __xn_access_ok changes Jan Kiszka
2007-11-04 21:40 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2007-11-05 17:57 ` Philippe Gerum
2007-11-05 19:20 ` Jan Kiszka
2007-11-05 20:00 ` Jan Kiszka
2007-11-05 23:06 ` Philippe Gerum [this message]
2007-11-06 6:20 ` Jan Kiszka
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