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From: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>
To: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>, Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Sukadev Bhattiprolu <sukadev@us.ibm.com>,
	Serge Hallyn <serue@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:49:19 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47301C7F.3080705@openvz.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <472BFA4B.9040506@redhat.com>

Ulrich Drepper wrote:
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> Pavel Emelyanov wrote:
>> Having access to the same IPCs in different pid namespaces won't work.
>> Having access to the same filesystem in different IPC namespaces won't work.
>> Having access to the same UID namespace in different VFS namespaces won't work.
>> Having access to the same <any> namespace in different <many others> namespace
>>  wont' work.
>> [...]
> 
> 
> Then explicitly prevent the cases which cannot work in the clone()
> calls.  Yes, giving people rope to shoot themselves is a Unix tradition
> but it's so unnecessary in this case and will only cause support
> problems for innocent people.

:)

> I bet the result will be that if you have a separate PID namespace you
> need to enforce every other namespace as well.  There are simply too
> many dependencies.

I think, that Ted's proposal (about the "namespaces compatibility matrix") is 
better. I'd prefer knowing of what can stop working in case I do something
rather that forcedly having my hands off this.

Thanks,
Pavel

  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-06  8:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-01 14:43 [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround Ingo Molnar
2007-11-01 14:51 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-11-01 14:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-01 15:06     ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-11-01 15:17       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-01 15:30         ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-11-01 14:56   ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-11-01 15:05     ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-11-02  0:21       ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-11-02  7:55         ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-11-02  8:04           ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-02  8:14             ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-11-02 14:05               ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-11-02 14:21                 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-11-02 15:34                   ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-11-02 15:58                     ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-11-02 21:39                       ` Theodore Tso
2007-11-03  4:34                       ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-11-06  7:49                         ` Pavel Emelyanov [this message]
2007-11-03 20:01                   ` sukadev
2007-11-04  7:17                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-11-02 17:30             ` Dave Hansen
2007-11-02 17:39               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-03  4:02                 ` Nicholas Miell
2007-11-03 20:12                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-03 22:40                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-03 23:55                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-11-04  0:21                       ` david
2007-11-04 10:38                     ` [patch] PID namespaces Ingo Molnar
2007-11-04 20:12                       ` Dave Hansen
2007-11-05 14:47                       ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-11-20 22:53                   ` Futexes and network filesystems Er ic W. Biederman
2007-11-21  6:16                     ` Kyle Moffett
2007-11-21  6:30                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-11-01 16:12     ` [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround Dave Hansen
2007-11-01 14:53 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-11-01 15:05   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-01 18:57     ` Theodore Tso
2007-11-01 19:53       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-02  0:23         ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-11-01 15:02 ` Pavel Emelyanov

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