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From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] virtio-blk PCI backend
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:02:12 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47335D34.8030608@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47332BB7.2000900-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>

Avi Kivity wrote:
> Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>>> +    case VIRTIO_PCI_QUEUE_NOTIFY:
>>>>>> +    if (val < VIRTIO_PCI_QUEUE_MAX)
>>>>>> +        virtio_ring_kick(vdev, &vdev->vq[val]);
>>>>>> +    break;
>>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>> I see you're not using hypercalls for this, presumably for 
>>>>> compatibility
>>>>> with -no-kvm.
>>>>
>>>> More than just that.  By stick to PIO, we are compatible with just 
>>>> about any VMM.  For instance, we get Xen support for free.  If we 
>>>> used hypercalls, even if we agreed on a way to determine which 
>>>> number to use and how to make those calls, it would still be 
>>>> difficult to implement in something like Xen.
>>>>
>>>
>>> But pio through the config space basically means you're committed to 
>>> handling it in qemu.  We want a more flexible mechanism.
>>
>> There's no reason that the PIO operations couldn't be handled in the 
>> kernel.  You'll already need some level of cooperation in userspace 
>> unless you plan on implementing the PCI bus in kernel space too.  
>> It's easy enough in the pci_map function in QEMU to just notify the 
>> kernel that it should listen on a particular PIO range.
>
> With my new  understanding of what this is all about, I suggest each 
> virtqueue having an ID filled in by the host.  This ID is globally 
> unique, and is used as an argument for kick.  It would map into a Xen 
> domain id + event channel number, a number to be written into a pio 
> port for kvm-lite or non-hypercall kvm, the argument for a kick 
> hypercall on kvm, or whatever.

Yeah, right now, I maintain a virtqueue "selector" within virtio-pci and 
use that for notification.  This index is also exposed in the 
config->find_vq() within virtio.  Changing that to an opaque ID would 
require introducing another mechanism to enumerate the virtqueues since 
you couldn't just start from 0 and keep going until you hit an invalid 
virtqueue.

I'm not sure I'm convinced that you couldn't just hide this "id" notion 
in the virtio-xen implementation if you needed to.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> This is independent of virtio-pci, which is good.
>


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-11-08 19:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-08  2:51 [RFC] virtio-blk PCI backend Anthony Liguori
     [not found] ` <11944902733951-git-send-email-aliguori-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-08  6:24   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]     ` <4732ABA0.5090603-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-08 13:57       ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]         ` <473315DB.9030803-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-08 14:02           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]             ` <4733170B.70206-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-08 15:09               ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]                 ` <473326B4.2080307-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-08 15:19                   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                     ` <473328EC.4090905-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-08 16:22                       ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]                         ` <473337B9.8040503-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-09  0:13                           ` Dor Laor
     [not found]                             ` <4733A635.1080004-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-20  8:39                               ` Christian Borntraeger
     [not found]                                 ` <200711200939.19410.borntraeger-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-20 10:00                                   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                     ` <4742B053.8080301-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-20 10:17                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                                         ` <200711201117.17900.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-20 11:05                                           ` Carsten Otte
2007-11-11  9:23                           ` Avi Kivity
2007-11-08 15:31                   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                     ` <47332BB7.2000900-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-08 19:02                       ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2007-11-09  0:25   ` Dor Laor
     [not found]     ` <4733A917.5000303-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-09  1:38       ` Anthony Liguori

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