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From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
To: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca,
	penberg@cs.helsinki.fi
Subject: Re: [patch 0/7] [RFC] SLUB: Improve allocpercpu to reduce per cpu access overhead
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:14:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4738B437.1000204@cosmosbay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <617E1C2C70743745A92448908E030B2A02EDFBB5@scsmsx411.amr.corp.intel.com>

Luck, Tony a écrit :
>>> Ahh so the need to be able to expand per cpu memory storage on demand 
>>> is not as critical as we thought.
>>>
>> Yes, but still desirable for future optimizations.
>>
>> For example, I do think using a per cpu memory storage on net_device refcnt & 
>> last_rx could give us some speedups.
> 
> We do want to keep a very tight handle on bloat in per-cpu
> allocations.  By definition the total allocation is multiplied
> by the number of cpus.  Only ia64 has outrageous numbers of
> cpus in a single system image today ... but the trend in
> multi-core chips looks to have a Moore's law arc to it, so
> everyone is going to be looking at lots of cpus before long.
> 

I dont think this is a problem. Cpus numbers and ram size are related, even if 
Moore didnt predicted it;

Nobody wants to ship/build a 4096 cpus machine with 256 MB of ram inside.
Or call it a GPU and dont expect it to run linux :)

99,9% of linux machines running on earth have less than 8 cpus and less than 
1000 ethernet/network devices.

In case we increase the number of cpus on a machine, the limiting factor is 
the fact that cpus have to continually exchange on memory bus those highly 
touched cache lines that contain refcounters or stats.


  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-12 20:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-01  0:02 [patch 0/7] [RFC] SLUB: Improve allocpercpu to reduce per cpu access overhead Christoph Lameter
2007-11-01  0:02 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-01  0:02 ` [patch 1/7] allocpercpu: Make it a true per cpu allocator by allocating from a per cpu array Christoph Lameter
2007-11-01  0:02   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-01  7:24   ` Eric Dumazet
2007-11-01 12:59     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-01  0:02 ` [patch 2/7] allocpercpu: Remove functions that are rarely used Christoph Lameter
2007-11-01  0:02   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-01  0:02 ` [patch 3/7] Allocpercpu: Do __percpu_disguise() only if CONFIG_DEBUG_VM is set Christoph Lameter
2007-11-01  0:02   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-01  7:25   ` Eric Dumazet
2007-11-01  0:02 ` [patch 4/7] Percpu: Add support for this_cpu_offset() to be able to create this_cpu_ptr() Christoph Lameter
2007-11-01  0:02   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-01  0:02 ` [patch 5/7] SLUB: Use allocpercpu to allocate per cpu data instead of running our own per cpu allocator Christoph Lameter
2007-11-01  0:02   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-01  0:02 ` [patch 6/7] SLUB: No need to cache kmem_cache data in kmem_cache_cpu anymore Christoph Lameter
2007-11-01  0:02   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-01  0:02 ` [patch 7/7] SLUB: Optimize per cpu access on the local cpu using this_cpu_ptr() Christoph Lameter
2007-11-01  0:02   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-01  0:24 ` [patch 0/7] [RFC] SLUB: Improve allocpercpu to reduce per cpu access overhead David Miller
2007-11-01  0:26   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-01  0:27     ` David Miller
2007-11-01  0:31       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-01  0:51         ` David Miller
2007-11-01  0:53           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-01  1:00             ` David Miller
2007-11-01  1:01               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-01  1:09                 ` David Miller
2007-11-01  1:12                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-01  1:13                     ` David Miller
2007-11-01  1:21                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-01  5:27                         ` David Miller
2007-11-01  4:16                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-01  5:38                         ` David Miller
2007-11-01  7:01                         ` David Miller
2007-11-01  9:14                           ` David Miller
2007-11-01 13:03                             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-01 21:29                               ` David Miller
2007-11-01 22:15                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-01 22:38                                   ` David Miller
2007-11-01 22:48                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-01 22:58                                       ` David Miller
2007-11-02  1:06                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-02  2:51                                           ` David Miller
2007-11-02 10:28                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-02 14:35                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-02 15:20                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-02 15:29                                               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-12 10:52                                         ` Herbert Xu
2007-11-12 10:52                                           ` Herbert Xu
2007-11-12 19:14                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-12 19:48                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2007-11-12 19:56                                               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-12 20:18                                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-11-12 22:46                                                   ` David Miller
2007-11-12 19:57                                               ` Luck, Tony
2007-11-12 19:57                                                 ` Luck, Tony
2007-11-12 20:14                                                 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2007-11-12 22:46                                                   ` David Miller
2007-11-12 21:28                                           ` David Miller
2007-11-01 23:00                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2007-11-02  0:58                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-02  1:40                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-01  7:17 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-11-01  7:57   ` David Miller
2007-11-01 13:01     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-01 21:25       ` David Miller
2007-11-01 12:57   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-01 21:28     ` David Miller
2007-11-01 22:11       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-01 22:14         ` David Miller
2007-11-01 22:16           ` Christoph Lameter

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