From: Wendy Cheng <wcheng@redhat.com>
To: chuck.lever@oracle.com
Cc: nfs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [NFS] NFS Digest, Vol 18, Issue 70 (NFS performance problems)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:28:43 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <474A3D6B.2060208@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47445727.5090705@oracle.com>
Chuck Lever wrote:
> Hi Wendy-
>
> That means his old system would have been exposed to data corruption
> issues if it crashes (panic, power outage, etc). Using "sync" became
> default because async is inherently careless about data integrity.
> The data loss is often entirely silent.
>
> This is explained in the Linux NFS FAQ, question B6.
>
> See http://nfs.sourceforge.net/index.php#faq_b6
Setting aside NFS for a moment... for a locally mounted filesystem, the
file data stays in the cache until write-back occurs. Upon crashing,
there are always possibilities that the data could be lost. Journaling
filesystems such as EXT3 can only ensure no meta-data corruption, there
is no guarantee that data would be saved unless the filesystem is
mounted with "sync" option. With non-trivial performance hits, most of
the filesystems are hardly mounted with "sync" option. Applications
normally understand the problem and whenever required, fsync() and/or
similar mechanisms are applied.
For Linux NFS servers to deviate from this common practice, by reading
the FAQ, I assume something has been done (particularly from client
ends) to alleviate the performance hit ? Could you elaborate more about
this ?
Again, I'm not trying to argue and/or start a flamewar. I have a need to
understand more about this issue. The "sync" operation is very expensive
for us (cluster filesystem) and I'm under the gun to improve our NFS
file serving performance at this moment.
-- Wendy
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2007-11-20 20:22 ` [NFS] NFS Digest, Vol 18, Issue 70 (NFS performance problems) Wendy Cheng
[not found] ` <BAY104-W43766F661E50E7FFCDA8EBA7F0-MsuGFMq8XAE@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-20 21:17 ` Peter Staubach
2007-11-20 21:23 ` Wendy Cheng
2007-11-21 16:04 ` Chuck Lever
2007-11-26 3:28 ` Wendy Cheng [this message]
2007-11-26 4:41 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-11-26 5:02 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <18254.19187.470275.538680@notabene.brown>
[not found] ` <18254.19187.470275.538680-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-29 5:30 ` Trond Myklebust
[not found] ` <1196314230.7950.42.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-30 16:27 ` Wendy Cheng
2007-12-03 20:31 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-12-03 21:13 ` Wendy Cheng
2007-12-03 21:30 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-12-03 21:38 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-12-03 21:49 ` Wendy Cheng
2007-12-03 22:07 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-11-27 18:40 ` Rui Pedro Mendes Salgueiro
[not found] ` <20071127184050.GA13791-/uZbGGhPd8Gmv2Aub4FSgw@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-28 1:50 ` Chuck Lever
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