From: Fabrice Bellard <fabrice@bellard.org>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] QEMU Dbus support - a proposal management API
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:10:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <475E5403.2000705@bellard.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f6ea40220712102316v470a51e7q3265e6e6b75aa8b2@mail.gmail.com>
Hi,
At this point I am not interested in integrating it into QEMU as it is
one more API level to maintain in addition to the command line monitor.
However, I can change my mind if several projects insists to have a
similar interface.
Regards,
Fabrice.
Yuval Kashtan wrote:
> Some answers:
> - If there is interest I can re-create the patch so it will work against
> the current head. I thought to receive some comments about it first..
> - thanks for the styling and configuration remarks, I will certainly fix
> these. But before I invest more time in it, I would like to hear what
> ppl think in general of management API? How do you like DBus as the
> infrastructure for that? and what do you think of the proposed
> implementation?
> - Currently only commands are implemented (with very few getters), but
> of course this can be further extended to include values reading and
> statistics.
> - This is very useful when you want to manage and control QEMU, for
> instance developing a GUI to attach and detach usb devices or
> controlling more than one instance of QEMU from a single management
> point, receiving parameters externally and more.
>
>
> On Dec 10, 2007 10:51 PM, Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com
> <mailto:blauwirbel@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> On 12/10/07, Yuval Kashtan < yuvalkashtan@gmail.com
> <mailto:yuvalkashtan@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > Hello All,
> > Attached is a proposed patch which adds DBus support to QEMU.
> DBus is a
> > standard message bus for linux
> > ( http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/dbus )
> > The idea behind this is to allow for external programs such as
> controlling
> > GUI or HyperVisors to communicate and control QEMU, in a standard
> manner.
> > Although it is possible to connect to the monitor, an API is more
> standard,
> > theres no need to parse texts and error messages, no
> internationalization
> > problems and in general is a much better idea.
> >
> > Implementation:
> > This is done by creating a DBus server from QEMU which raise
> signals and act
> > upon methods.
> > Methods mainly implement same logic as the current command line
> options and
> > monitor does.
> >
> > How to use:
> > To enable DBus support you'll have to add --enable-dbus when you
> execure
> > configure script.
> > Then when you execute QEMU, you'll have to add -dbus-service
> <service_name>
> > where service_name follows the DBus naming convention (
> xxx.xxx.xxx....)
> > To support QEMU configuration through DBus, you'll also have to add
> > -dbus_configuration which will cause QEMU to wait until
> ConfigDone is called
> > through the DBus interface. this allows external programs time to
> call DBus
> > methods starting with Config_ which changes configuration (just
> as the CLI
> > does) thus enabling invocation of QEMU without parameters (beside
> the DBus
> > ones).
> > With that, we have implemented a nice python script that reads VM's
> > configuration from INI file.
> >
> > To compile this you will also have to compile the attached
> freedesktop.org <http://freedesktop.org>
> > dsrv library (it is also attach for those who can't handle GIT) from:
> > git://people.freedesktop.org/~shaharf/dsrv
> >
> > Features:
> > Currently support was added to all important CLI configuration
> and some
> > online monitor functions (such as connecting and disconnecting
> usb devices).
> > configuration methods begins with Config_ prefix and monitor ones
> with
> > Monitor_.
> > For a complete list you can just execute qemu and connect with
> dbus-viewer
> > to see what is supported.
> >
> >
> > All the dbus handling routines can be found in dbus-monitor.c.
> > I have two different implementations of this:
> > 1) A single threaded version. which comply to the qemu standard
> of not
> > opening additional threads.
> > 2) A multi threaded version which open an additional, single,
> thread which
> > handles all the DBus load. I actually believe this version is
> better as it
> > allows QEMU to continue execution of guest operations even when
> there are
> > DBus methods/signals to handle, whereas in the first option, DBus is
> > integrated into QEMU mainloop. Also this makes it possible to
> monitor even
> > during long operations (like monitoring the progress of savevm)
> >
> >
> > Please comment both on the idea of management API and the proposed
> > implementation.
> >
> >
> > Attached are:
> > RFC-QEMU-Dbus.patch - patch file including all necessary changes
> to qemu.
> > was made against QEMU HEAD as of 23/9 morning.
> > RFC-QEMU-Dbus-Interface.xml - the xml description of the DBus
> interface that
> > I suggest.
> > dsrv.tar.gz.txt - the dbus server library.
>
> I have no idea if this is useful. I would have tried the patch, but it
> does not apply to current CVS. Other comments:
>
> When configure is invoked with --enable-dbus, it should check for DBUS
> libraries and abort if not found.
>
> The coding style in monitor-dbus.c is different from what is commonly
> used in Qemu. Some long lines could be shortened.
>
> Enabling of DEBUG_ACPI and other ACPI changes are probably not
> directly needed so they should be in separate patches.
>
> Only commands are included, how about reading values and statistics?
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sincerly,
> Yuval Kashtan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-12-11 9:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-12-10 8:28 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] QEMU Dbus support - a proposal management API Yuval Kashtan
2007-12-10 20:51 ` Blue Swirl
2007-12-11 7:16 ` Yuval Kashtan
2007-12-11 9:10 ` Fabrice Bellard [this message]
2007-12-11 9:23 ` Laurent Vivier
2007-12-11 10:06 ` Brad Campbell
2007-12-11 10:07 ` Dor Laor
2007-12-11 14:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-12-11 15:00 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2007-12-11 15:21 ` Yuval Kashtan
2007-12-11 15:31 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2007-12-11 15:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-12-11 15:59 ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-11 16:18 ` Paul Brook
2007-12-11 16:40 ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-11 15:02 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2007-12-11 15:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-12-11 15:40 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2007-12-11 15:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-12-11 15:58 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2007-12-11 16:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-12-11 17:04 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2007-12-11 15:59 ` Dor Laor
2007-12-11 15:17 ` Jean-Christian de Rivaz
2007-12-11 15:24 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2007-12-11 10:20 ` Andreas Färber
2007-12-11 10:29 ` Laurent Vivier
2007-12-11 10:50 ` Andreas Färber
2007-12-11 10:21 ` Heikki Lindholm
2007-12-11 11:05 ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-11 14:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-12-11 14:56 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2007-12-11 15:57 ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-11 16:07 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2007-12-11 15:44 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2007-12-11 16:10 ` Fabrice Bellard
2007-12-11 14:53 ` Daniel P. Berrange
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