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From: Joshua Brindle <method@manicmethod.com>
To: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>
Cc: SE Linux <selinux@tycho.nsa.gov>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [STABLE] Makefile change to disable restorecond
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:59:23 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4760136B.9050607@manicmethod.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1197478030.1125.86.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil>

Stephen Smalley wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 11:42 -0500, Joshua Brindle wrote:
>   
>> Stephen Smalley wrote:
>>     
>>> On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 11:02 -0500, Joshua Brindle wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Stephen Smalley wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 10:09 -0500, Joshua Brindle wrote:
>>>>>   
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Stephen Smalley wrote:
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 15:13 -0500, Joshua Brindle wrote:
>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> Joshua Brindle wrote:
>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> This patch is necessary to build stable on RHEL4. CLIP uses the 
>>>>>>>>> current stable toolchain and supports RHEL4 as a target so we are 
>>>>>>>>> trying to upstream any magic that is necessary to build on that platform.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>> Ignore last patch, this one is actually against stable :)
>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> What about just checking for the presence of /usr/include/sys/inotify.h
>>>>>>> and disabling restorecond in its absence, similar to handling of PAMH
>>>>>>> and AUDITH in newrole's Makefile?  Then that could go into trunk too.
>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> The next problem is that libselinux won't build on RHEL4 without 
>>>>>> building the .lo files with --ftls-model=initial-exec. Do you have an 
>>>>>> opinion on how to switch this on/off for building there?
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>> We already have a TLSFLAGS definition for the .o files, so I suppose we
>>>>> could have two definitions, one for the .o files and one for the .lo
>>>>> files, and put them in the Makefile, and then you'd just build with make
>>>>> SHARED_TLSFLAGS="-ftlsmodel=initial-exec" or whatever for RHEL4.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or the other alternative would be to make the use of TLS completely a
>>>>> build-time option, which would help for distributions where it isn't
>>>>> supported at all.  That shouldn't be too difficult; Manoj posted a patch
>>>>> he was using for Debian a long time ago.
>>>>>   
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> Ok, I see http://marc.info/?l=selinux&m=115807948020898&w=2
>>>> This makes TLS unnecessary at all though, right? I have no problem with 
>>>> this as TLS makes me fairly uneasy anyway. Are you comfortable with 
>>>> Manoj's patch? I didn't see any discussion of it at all on list after he 
>>>> sent it..
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> I wasn't sure about unconditionally removing use of TLS (after all, if
>>> it is supported, why not use it?), but a patch that made its use a
>>> build-time option was ok with me if it didn't turn out to be too ugly to
>>> maintain.
>>>   
>>>       
>> Well, if Manoj fixed the interfaces where it is unnecessary I'd support 
>> removing it, TLS seems like a horrible way to hack around thread unsafe 
>> code to me. What do we gain by fixing interfaces to not need it but use 
>> it anyway?
>>     
>
> Sure - in cases where tls wasn't truly needed at all, it should be
> removed.  But in cases where it was replaced by mutexes and the like,
> there is an obvious tradeoff and we don't necessarily want to impose
> that on systems that support tls (although I have no idea as to the real
> performance tradeoffs there).
>   

Ok, so the matchpathcon potion of the patch is ok and we can make TLS 
optional for setrans_client?

I'll start working on this, is it ok for both stable and trunk or do you 
hesitate about putting it in stable?


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      reply	other threads:[~2007-12-12 16:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-11 20:05 [PATCH] [STABLE] Makefile change to disable restorecond Joshua Brindle
2007-12-11 20:13 ` Joshua Brindle
2007-12-11 20:19   ` Stephen Smalley
2007-12-12  0:07     ` Joshua Brindle
2007-12-12 15:40       ` Stephen Smalley
2007-12-12 15:09     ` Joshua Brindle
2007-12-12 15:35       ` Stephen Smalley
2007-12-12 16:02         ` Joshua Brindle
2007-12-12 16:11           ` Stephen Smalley
2007-12-12 16:42             ` Joshua Brindle
2007-12-12 16:47               ` Stephen Smalley
2007-12-12 16:59                 ` Joshua Brindle [this message]

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