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From: Robert Hancock <hancockr@shaw.ca>
To: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>, Gabor Gombas <gombasg@sztaki.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org,
	kluo@nvidia.com, AMartin@nvidia.com, pchen@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: sata_nv + ADMA + Samsung disk problem
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:27:00 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <477C2BD4.4030808@shaw.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <477B3571.6080500@gmail.com>

Tejun Heo wrote:
> Robert Hancock wrote:
>> Jeff Garzik wrote:
>>> Tejun Heo wrote:
>>>> Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation.  Nvidia ppl, any ideas?
>>>> FLUSH is used regularly.  We really need to fix this.
>>>
>>> I reiterate my opinion :)  ...   We should remove ADMA support from
>>> sata_nv.  It's only in a few chips, it's not appearing in any new
>>> chips, and nasty problems have lingered since ADMA support was
>>> introduced.
>>>
>>> Definitely sounds like we should disable ADMA by default for
>>> 2.6.24-rc, too.
>> I wouldn't agree.. It's only in a few chips (CK804/MCP04), but those
>> chips are very common in desktop, workstation, even some server
>> machines. Given the huge number of these chips out there, problem
>> reports have been quite rare.
> 
> I agree with Jeff here.  Maybe not remove but disable it by default and
> when enabling warn loudly.  NCQ just doesn't enough for its cost when
> the cost includes erratic behaviors.  Only very small fraction of error
> cases actually make to bugzilla or this mailing list.
> 
> Nvidia gents, is there anyway (be it NDA or whatever) to get Robert or
> any of us technical documentation?
> 
> Thanks.

Last I heard, NVIDIA management gave the thumbs down to any more NDAs 
for ADMA documentation. It would be nice if they would reconsider. 
Apparently Jeff does have the docs, though..

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-03  0:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-08 12:08 sata_nv + ADMA + Samsung disk problem Gabor Gombas
2007-08-14  9:30 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-14 12:02   ` Gabor Gombas
2007-08-16 16:06   ` Gabor Gombas
2007-08-16 18:45     ` Jim Paris
2008-01-01 16:44 ` Gabor Gombas
2008-01-02  3:25   ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-02  4:03     ` Robert Hancock
2008-01-02  4:20       ` Robert Hancock
2008-01-02  4:25         ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-02  6:19           ` Jeff Garzik
2008-01-02  6:39             ` Robert Hancock
2008-01-02  6:55               ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-03  0:27                 ` Robert Hancock [this message]
2008-01-02 17:23       ` Allen Martin
2008-01-02 17:23         ` Allen Martin
2008-01-02 18:57         ` Jeff Garzik
2008-01-02 23:23           ` Allen Martin
2008-01-02 23:23             ` Allen Martin
2008-01-03  0:21             ` Robert Hancock
2008-01-03  4:14               ` Mark Lord
2008-01-03  4:17               ` Mark Lord
2008-01-03  4:54                 ` Robert Hancock
2008-01-03 15:44                   ` Mark Lord
2008-01-03 15:47                     ` Mark Lord
2008-01-03 21:13                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-04  1:43                         ` Robert Hancock
2008-01-04  5:51                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-04  0:41                   ` Allen Martin
2008-01-04  0:41                     ` Allen Martin
2008-01-04  2:51                     ` Robert Hancock
2008-01-08  0:10                     ` Robert Hancock
2008-01-11 23:18                       ` Gabor Gombas
2008-01-12  1:10                         ` Robert Hancock

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