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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
To: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>,
	kvm-devel
	<kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>,
	virtualization-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kvm guest balloon driver
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 10:43:14 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4783A822.6000204@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4783A68E.80901-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>

Avi Kivity wrote:
> Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> BTW, I don't think the target should be a config value.  You don't 
>> gain anything from it being in the config space and it's somewhat 
>> unnatural for a virtio device.  It makes more sense as a message to 
>> the guest.
>>   
>
> I disagree. The target is state, not an individual item that needs to 
> be acted on. Having it as a single variable means that multiple 
> changes are collapsed automatically, and that the the setting survives 
> module reload.
>
> It's like a volume control, it doesn't send messages when you turn it, 
> it just sets a value.

It's a value that is meant to be acted upon though, not something to be 
polled.  You want to tell the driver that it should now try to balloon 
to a certain value.  Or maybe not.  Maybe the driver should read the 
target from the config space but then have a "kick" message that tells 
it, hey, something's probably changed.

> (maybe a thermostat knob is a better analogy, with the driver being 
> the circuitry around the knob that tries to control the temperature to 
> match the setting)

FWIW, I'm pretty sure that most modern volume controls are actually 
button presses for either direction instead of a variable resistor but 
point taken ;-)

> I believe state-like controls will be useful for other settings, like 
> ethernet link state.

It's difficult with the current config interface since it treats 
everything as a discrete blob that is updated all at once.  I'm not 
really sure how to proceed.

Rusty: do you have an opinion here?

Regards,

Anthony Liguori
 

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-01-08 16:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-08 15:33 [PATCH] kvm guest balloon driver Marcelo Tosatti
2008-01-08 15:42 ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]   ` <478399D5.9030707-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-08 16:10     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-01-08 16:14       ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]         ` <4783A14A.3080605-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-08 16:36           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]             ` <4783A68E.80901-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-08 16:43               ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2008-01-08 16:43             ` [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-01-08 16:36         ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-08 16:14       ` Anthony Liguori
2008-01-08 16:18       ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]         ` <4783A245.90002-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-09  3:20           ` Rusty Russell
2008-01-09  3:20         ` [kvm-devel] " Rusty Russell
2008-01-08 16:18       ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-09 10:06     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-09 11:14       ` [kvm-devel] " Marcelo Tosatti
     [not found]       ` <20080109100621.GL6958-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-09 11:14         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-01-08 16:10   ` [kvm-devel] " Marcelo Tosatti
2008-01-09 10:06   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-08 15:42 ` Anthony Liguori
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-01-08 15:33 Marcelo Tosatti

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