From: Anthony Liguori <anthony-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
To: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>,
kvm-devel
<kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>,
virtualization-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kvm guest balloon driver
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 10:43:14 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4783A822.6000204@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4783A68E.80901-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Avi Kivity wrote:
> Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> BTW, I don't think the target should be a config value. You don't
>> gain anything from it being in the config space and it's somewhat
>> unnatural for a virtio device. It makes more sense as a message to
>> the guest.
>>
>
> I disagree. The target is state, not an individual item that needs to
> be acted on. Having it as a single variable means that multiple
> changes are collapsed automatically, and that the the setting survives
> module reload.
>
> It's like a volume control, it doesn't send messages when you turn it,
> it just sets a value.
It's a value that is meant to be acted upon though, not something to be
polled. You want to tell the driver that it should now try to balloon
to a certain value. Or maybe not. Maybe the driver should read the
target from the config space but then have a "kick" message that tells
it, hey, something's probably changed.
> (maybe a thermostat knob is a better analogy, with the driver being
> the circuitry around the knob that tries to control the temperature to
> match the setting)
FWIW, I'm pretty sure that most modern volume controls are actually
button presses for either direction instead of a variable resistor but
point taken ;-)
> I believe state-like controls will be useful for other settings, like
> ethernet link state.
It's difficult with the current config interface since it treats
everything as a discrete blob that is updated all at once. I'm not
really sure how to proceed.
Rusty: do you have an opinion here?
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-01-08 16:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-08 15:33 [PATCH] kvm guest balloon driver Marcelo Tosatti
2008-01-08 15:42 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <478399D5.9030707-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-08 16:10 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-01-08 16:14 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <4783A14A.3080605-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-08 16:36 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <4783A68E.80901-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-08 16:43 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2008-01-08 16:43 ` [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-01-08 16:36 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-08 16:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-01-08 16:18 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <4783A245.90002-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-09 3:20 ` Rusty Russell
2008-01-09 3:20 ` [kvm-devel] " Rusty Russell
2008-01-08 16:18 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-09 10:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-09 11:14 ` [kvm-devel] " Marcelo Tosatti
[not found] ` <20080109100621.GL6958-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-09 11:14 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-01-08 16:10 ` [kvm-devel] " Marcelo Tosatti
2008-01-09 10:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-08 15:42 ` Anthony Liguori
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2008-01-08 15:33 Marcelo Tosatti
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