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From: David Newall <davidn@davidnewall.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>, Chodorenko Michail <misha@one.by>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: PROBLEM: Celeron Core
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:05:38 +1030	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4792CF9A.2030601@davidnewall.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080119045415.GA27628@one.firstfloor.org>

Andi Kleen wrote:
> I think the misunderstanding on your side is relative to what there
> is less heat. Throttling essentially reduces temporary heat spikes on
> the silicon, but does not make the system overall take less power
> or generate less heat as measured over a longer time because it will
> be idle less.
>   

I don't understand this, and it seems wrong.  Most machines spend most
of their time doing nothing, or as close to nothing as they're allowed. 
Idle, in other words.  Isn't it the case that an idle machine will use
less power when throttled than when not?

  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-20  4:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-18 19:06 PROBLEM: Celeron Core Chodorenko Michail
2008-01-18 21:11 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-19  0:27   ` Matt Mackall
2008-01-19  1:15     ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-19  4:10       ` Matt Mackall
2008-01-19  4:27         ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-19  4:40           ` Matt Mackall
2008-01-19  4:54             ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-20  4:35               ` David Newall [this message]
2008-01-20  5:13                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-20  5:23                   ` David Newall
2008-01-20  5:42                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-20 20:53                     ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-20 11:18           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found] <fa.2Y+LplM9PCtpiAXzv/aJ3Pcnv4Y@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.OpXJDCw416yeXEvt0cwrupi/qS0@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]   ` <fa.sj34KNXkf9z/ZO3fVJ+CYcgcuCs@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]     ` <fa.qpK4b5H7lkLeIaPtbJKzKV46yFY@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]       ` <fa.WeBRuL3UPPVPESVzfopvVyNcAw4@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]         ` <fa.LZLUxfR64dAZFPtin9JNet7ieiY@ifi.uio.no>
2008-01-20 18:24           ` Robert Hancock
2008-01-20 19:14             ` Matt Mackall
2008-01-20 19:24               ` Robert Hancock
2008-01-20 21:31                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-21  7:48               ` Daniel Barkalow
2008-01-20 19:16             ` Andi Kleen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-01-20 22:06 Tomasz Chmielewski
2008-01-20 22:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-21 10:11 ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found] <fa.tHyDHqRNYFvp4N4SR4JtJRuqh0k@ifi.uio.no>
2008-01-21 23:59 ` Robert Hancock

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