From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>,
linux-scsi <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-ide <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
Jens Axboe <Jens.Axboe@oracle.com>,
FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND number 2] libata: eliminate the home grown dma padding in favour of that provided by the block layer
Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 11:38:58 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47A5EE22.30001@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1202055156.3318.58.camel@localhost.localdomain>
James Bottomley wrote:
> The aic94xx sequencer has a very finely honed sense of DMA transfers.
> It's fully automated, and handles both ATA DMA and ATA PIO in the
> sequencer engine (so all the driver sees is DMA).
ditto AHCI, and most other DMA engines
> It reports both underrun and overrun conditions. For DMA underrun
ditto AHCI, and most other DMA engines
> (device transfers less than expected, it just returns what it has and
> how much was missing as the residual) for DMA overrun (as in device
> tried to take more than it was programmed to send on either read or
> write) for PIO it does seem to zero fill or discard and then simply
> report task complete with overrun and let libsas sort it out. I suspect
> for DMA it first tries DMAT before taking other actions, but I'd need a
> protocol analyser (or the sequencer docs) to be sure.
Almost every other DMA engine on the planet besides aic94xx is pretty
much the same... you set up an s/g tables, and it reports overrun or
underrun via an interrupt + status register bit.
It sounds like aic94xx might do more work in the firmware -- that counts
as "advanced", since some of the DMA engine cleanup clearly occurs in
firmware, rather than pushed to kernel software.
Nowhere do I see anything about AHCI that is "broken." It has standard
DMA engine behavior found in storage and non-storage hardware.
> We handle overruns as error conditions in both SAS and ATA at the
> moment, but the point is that the ATAPI device is fully happy and
> quiesced when we do this.
That may be the result of aic94xx handling extra FIS's in the firmware,
something we cannot depend on for purely silicon-based devices.
mvsas, broadsas, ahci, sata_sil24, and others behave similarly...
Please don't mistake lack of firmware cleanup as "broken hardware."
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-02-03 16:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-12-31 21:56 [PATCH] libata: eliminate the home grown dma padding in favour of that provided by the block layer James Bottomley
2007-12-31 22:56 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-01-03 7:58 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-01-03 15:12 ` James Bottomley
2008-01-09 2:10 ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-09 4:24 ` James Bottomley
2008-01-09 5:13 ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-09 15:13 ` James Bottomley
2008-01-18 23:14 ` [PATCH RESEND] " James Bottomley
2008-02-01 19:40 ` [PATCH RESEND number 2] " James Bottomley
2008-02-01 20:02 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-01 21:09 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-03 3:04 ` Tejun Heo
2008-02-03 4:32 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-03 7:37 ` Tejun Heo
2008-02-03 14:38 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-03 15:14 ` Tejun Heo
2008-02-03 16:12 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-03 16:38 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2008-02-03 17:12 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-04 1:21 ` Tejun Heo
2008-02-04 1:28 ` Tejun Heo
2008-02-04 9:25 ` Tejun Heo
2008-02-04 14:43 ` Tejun Heo
2008-02-04 16:23 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-05 0:06 ` Tejun Heo
2008-02-05 0:32 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-05 0:43 ` Tejun Heo
2008-02-05 0:53 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-05 1:07 ` Tejun Heo
2008-02-05 5:03 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-05 5:22 ` Tejun Heo
2008-02-04 15:43 ` James Bottomley
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