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From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	"Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Dhaval Giani <dhaval@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Make yield_task_fair more efficient
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:57:09 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47BD600D.800@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1203592374.6243.138.camel@lappy>

Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 15:37 +0530, Balbir Singh wrote:
> 
>> You use the empty pointer (missing right child), so why do we need a list. May
>> be I am missing something.
> 
> A fully threaded tree also has back-pointer to traverse backwards
> through the ordered elements.
> 

The back pointer is implemented using missing left children. I am referring to
Don Knuth's volume 1: The art of computer programming, section 2.3.1, page 322.
Please see the threaded representation of the tree, it is compared with the
unthreaded representation.

> That said, overloading the right child pointer might not be the best
> thing for the linux kernel, as it will impact all the rb-tree lookups
> which are open-coded and often performance critical (this is the reason
> the colour isn't bit encoded in either of the child pointers either).
> 

We always look at the child, irrespective of whether it is to the right or left
to terminate our walk. Overloading them and setting a bit stating it is threaded
should not be that bad.

> But if you only want a uni directional thread, I guess we can stick it
> in the unsigned long we use for the node colour.
> 
> Still, perhaps it's worth it to grow rb_node to 4 words and do the fully
> threaded thing as there are also a lot of rb_prev() users in the kernel.
> Who knows..
> 

Why does the rb_node need to grow? We can encode the bits in the children

> Anyway, I agree that improving rb_next() is worth looking into for the
> scheduler.

Sure, will experiment and see if we can bump up performance.

-- 
	Warm Regards,
	Balbir Singh
	Linux Technology Center
	IBM, ISTL

  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-21 11:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-21  5:33 Make yield_task_fair more efficient Balbir Singh
2008-02-21  6:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-21  6:51   ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-21  7:07     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-21  7:39       ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-21  8:43         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-02-21  8:50           ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-21  9:04             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-21  9:31               ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-21  9:42                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-21  9:44                   ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-21  9:43                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-02-21  9:42                   ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-21 10:01                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-02-21 10:07                       ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-21 11:12                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-02-21 11:27                           ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2008-02-21 20:38                           ` Jens Axboe
2008-02-21 20:55                             ` Jens Axboe
2008-02-22  3:27                               ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-21 10:17                 ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-21 12:02                 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-21 12:06                   ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-21 13:29                   ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-21 14:38     ` Jörn Engel

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