From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: Ian Campbell <ijc@hellion.org.uk>,
Joel Becker <Joel.Becker@oracle.com>,
Jody Belka <lists-lkml@pimb.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
Mika Penttila <mika.penttila@kolumbus.fi>
Subject: Re: 2.6.25-rc1 xen pvops regression
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:58:48 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47BE0228.7020204@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47BE0017.1020205@goop.org>
Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
>>
>> What is the e820 information you feed the kernel? We should only ever
>> allocate page tables out of available RAM, not any other type of
>> memory (reserved or not).
>
> The kernel gets a flat memory map; all memory is just plain RAM. The
> problem is that we're allocating a normal page and turning it into a
> pagetable - so far so good. Then the DMI code is randomly mapping that
> same page RW so it can scan it for DMI signatures, which Xen is preventing.
>
> There are two immediate fixes:
>
> 1. Only scan for DMI if the memory is reserved (rejected, because HPA
> says some machines don't reserve the DMI space). Alternatively,
> don't bother scanning if booting under Xen.
> 2. Make DMI map the memory RO so that Xen doesn't complain (which is
> sensible because DMI is ROM anyway).
>
> But as far as I can tell, this shouldn't be happening anyway, and could
> happen on real hardware which doesn't reserve the DMI space. It
> probably doesn't because initial pagetables on real hardware use large
> pages, and therefore allocate less memory for pagetable memory and
> therefore doesn't end up hitting the 0xf0000 region. But that area
> should be excluded from the allocation pool.
>
Which it is on real hardware, because although it's not *reserved* (type
2), it is certainly not made available as *normal memory* (type 1). If
Xen maps this as type 1 then I definitely see the problem.
We can exclude type 1 memory from DMI scan, certainly.
However, Xen may want to consider why provide memory below the 1 MB
point at all, and certainly whether it's wise to provide RAM in the
640-1024 KB legacy region -- although you could argue that "it *should*
work", odds are pretty good you'll have nasty surprises on a regular basis.
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-02-21 23:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-12 23:54 2.6.25-rc1 xen pvops regression Jody Belka
2008-02-13 11:59 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-02-13 12:13 ` Jody Belka
2008-02-13 12:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-14 2:27 ` Joel Becker
2008-02-14 7:50 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-02-15 20:23 ` Joel Becker
2008-02-16 2:44 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-02-16 8:54 ` Joel Becker
2008-02-16 11:46 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-02-17 6:29 ` Joel Becker
2008-02-17 12:09 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-02-17 6:39 ` Joel Becker
2008-02-17 18:49 ` Ian Campbell
2008-02-18 10:40 ` Joel Becker
2008-02-19 21:50 ` Ian Campbell
2008-02-19 21:59 ` Ian Campbell
2008-02-20 7:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-02-20 8:51 ` Ian Campbell
2008-02-20 21:42 ` Joel Becker
2008-02-20 22:30 ` Ian Campbell
2008-02-20 21:58 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-02-20 22:29 ` Ian Campbell
2008-02-21 21:16 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-02-21 21:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-02-21 21:37 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-02-21 21:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-02-21 22:12 ` Ian Campbell
2008-02-21 22:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-02-21 22:49 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-02-21 22:58 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2008-02-22 7:25 ` Ian Campbell
2008-02-22 9:28 ` Alan Cox
2008-02-22 9:55 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-22 10:00 ` Alan Cox
2008-02-22 10:15 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-22 16:27 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-02-22 19:25 ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-26 17:06 ` Mark McLoughlin
2008-02-26 20:05 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-02-21 22:58 ` Joel Becker
2008-02-21 22:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-02-21 23:14 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-02-21 23:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-02-21 23:46 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-02-21 23:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
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