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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@domain.hid>
To: Gilles Chanteperdrix <gilles.chanteperdrix@xenomai.org>
Cc: Xenomai-core@domain.hid
Subject: Re: [Xenomai-core] [RFC][PATCH 4/4] Recursive FIFO ticket xnlock
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:20:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47C063F0.8040503@domain.hid> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18368.24026.551410.454239@domain.hid>

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Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
> Jan Kiszka wrote:
>  > The root of all this: When Nick Piggin posted his first suggestion for
>  > ticket spinlocks on LKML, I immediately liked the idea. For details
>  > check LWN [1], in a nutshell: This algorithm enforces strict FIFO order
>  > for the admission to contended spinlocks, thus it improves the
>  > determinism on SMP systems with more than 2 CPUs.
>  > 
>  > Meanwhile, ticket spinlocks are mainline (2.6.25). But that version has
>  > to drawbacks for us: it doesn't support nesting like xnlock does, and it
>  > is x86-only so far.
>  > 
>  > So I designed a version for Xenomai which is both nestable and
>  > arch-independent. It is certainly not as optimal as mainline's version,
>  > but our code path stresses the locking code differently anyway.
>  > 
>  > This thing here /seems/ to work, but I'm lacking CPUs at home to test.
>  > You can't truly stress ticket locks with only a single dual-core :-/.
>  > QEMU runs into a live-lock with -smp 2, this patch applied and two
>  > moderate latency loops, but that might be an artifact of its
>  > single-threaded VCPU scheduling. And kvm currently locks up under SMP
>  > even without any change, but kvm and SMP is a story of its own. There is
>  > hope: 16-way is waiting at work... :)
> 
> Xenomai uses a Big Kernel Lock, an approach known to not scale very
> well. So, if we want to scale correctly on machines with many cpus, we
> should change our locking strategy first.

Per-cpu IPC objects, per-cpu nklock - I'm all with you! But that's stuff
for a massive restructuring we could schedule for Xenomai 3.

This thing here surely does not help to scale RT loads across 16 CPUs or
more. But it already pays off determinism-wise with 3 or 4 CPUs involved
in RT jobs with moderate contention on nklock. It is nothing for 2-way
boxes (except for testing) where the exiting algorithm is more efficient
(and where you don't have the risk of unfair lock admission anyway).

Jan


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  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-23 18:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-23 13:33 [Xenomai-core] [PATCH 0/4] Fixes and improvements around xnlock Jan Kiszka
2008-02-23 13:36 ` [Xenomai-core] [PATCH 2/4] Fix and optimize xnlock_put Jan Kiszka
2008-02-23 17:41   ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2008-02-23 18:05     ` Jan Kiszka
2008-02-23 18:29       ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2008-02-23 18:57         ` Jan Kiszka
2008-02-23 19:41           ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2008-02-23 23:50           ` Philippe Gerum
2008-02-23 13:37 ` [Xenomai-core] [PATCH 1/4] Refactor generic system.h Jan Kiszka
2008-02-23 17:38   ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2008-02-23 18:03     ` Jan Kiszka
2008-02-23 18:59       ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2008-03-01 18:54       ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2008-03-01 19:22         ` Jan Kiszka
2008-02-23 13:38 ` [Xenomai-core] [PATCH 3/4] Uninline heavy locking functions Jan Kiszka
2008-02-23 17:51   ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2008-02-23 18:13     ` Jan Kiszka
2008-02-23 18:33       ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2008-02-23 18:58         ` Jan Kiszka
2008-02-23 21:36   ` Jeroen Van den Keybus
2008-02-23 13:50 ` [Xenomai-core] [RFC][PATCH 4/4] Recursive FIFO ticket xnlock Jan Kiszka
2008-02-23 17:54   ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2008-02-23 18:20     ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2008-02-23 18:43       ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2008-02-23 19:13         ` Jan Kiszka

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