From: Ric Wheeler <ric@emc.com>
To: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Cc: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Chris Wedgwood <cw@f00f.org>
Subject: Re: Proposal for "proper" durable fsync() and fdatasync()
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 07:13:29 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47C40269.7060309@emc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47C3C33F.1070908@garzik.org>
Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Jamie Lokier wrote:
>> By durable, I mean that fsync() should actually commit writes to
>> physical stable storage,
>
> Yes, it should.
>
>
>> I was surprised that fsync() doesn't do this already. There was a lot
>> of effort put into block I/O write barriers during 2.5, so that
>> journalling filesystems can force correct write ordering, using disk
>> flush cache commands.
>>
>> After all that effort, I was very surprised to notice that Linux 2.6.x
>> doesn't use that capability to ensure fsync() flushes the disk cache
>> onto stable storage.
>
> It's surprising you are surprised, given that this [lame] fsync behavior
> has remaining consistently lame throughout Linux's history.
Maybe I am confused, but isn't this is what fsync() does today whenever
barriers are enabled (the fsync() invalidates the drive's write cache).
ric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-02-26 15:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-26 7:26 Proposal for "proper" durable fsync() and fdatasync() Jamie Lokier
2008-02-26 7:43 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-26 7:59 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-02-26 9:16 ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-26 14:09 ` Jörn Engel
2008-02-26 14:09 ` Jörn Engel
2008-02-26 15:07 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-02-26 15:07 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-02-26 16:27 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-26 15:28 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-02-26 15:28 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-02-26 17:02 ` Jörn Engel
2008-02-26 17:29 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-02-26 17:29 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-02-26 17:38 ` Jörn Engel
2008-02-26 17:38 ` Jörn Engel
2008-02-26 16:43 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-26 17:00 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-02-26 17:54 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-27 14:16 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-02-26 7:43 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-26 7:55 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-02-26 9:25 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-02-26 12:13 ` Ric Wheeler [this message]
2008-02-26 15:43 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-11-24 21:10 ` Sachin Gaikwad
2008-11-25 10:17 ` Jamie Lokier
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