All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: James Chapman <jchapman@katalix.com>
To: Dan Williams <dcbw@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Lloyd <klloyd@sierrawireless.com>, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Network device driver with PPP
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:27:03 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47C67E67.70604@katalix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1204164955.26292.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Dan Williams wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 17:28 -0800, Kevin Lloyd wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have a device that is currently supported via a combination of loading the device with usb-serial (drivers/usb/serial/sierra) to expose the serial ports and connecting by manually launching pppd.
>> I would like to support this device in a network driver as opposed to a serial driver in an effort to offer a seamless always-on device, such as an Ethernet device.
>>
>> From what I understand the ppp support in the kernel is only for ppp framing and that all control (e.g., IPCP) is done in user-space via pppd. Are there any network drivers that currently manage the ppp connection (entirely, IPCP included) internally to the driver and expose either a raw ip or ethernet stream to the user-space?
> 
> That seems quite icky to do all in kernel space and a pile of code
> running in the kernel.  What's so wrong with userspace?  Don't you need
> to push values to the driver like username/password and get IP config
> out of it (which would involve userspace anyway)?  It just seems like
> there's a different solution to your actual problem here than stuff all
> off pppd into kernel space.

I agree.

Kevin mentions manually launching pppd and the desire for a seamless 
always-on device. I think this could be done using udev/hotplug rules to 
launch/stop pppd automatically when the usb device is hot-plugged. No 
additional kernel support needed.

-- 
James Chapman
Katalix Systems Ltd
http://www.katalix.com
Catalysts for your Embedded Linux software development


  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-28  9:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-28  1:28 Network device driver with PPP Kevin Lloyd
2008-02-28  2:15 ` Dan Williams
2008-02-28  9:27   ` James Chapman [this message]
2008-02-28 16:19     ` Kevin Lloyd
2008-02-29 15:02       ` James Chapman
2008-03-01  1:41         ` Kevin Lloyd
2008-03-01 12:08           ` James Chapman

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=47C67E67.70604@katalix.com \
    --to=jchapman@katalix.com \
    --cc=dcbw@redhat.com \
    --cc=klloyd@sierrawireless.com \
    --cc=netdev@vger.kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.