From: Joshua Brindle <method@manicmethod.com>
To: Kohei KaiGai <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Cc: "Christopher J. PeBenito" <cpebenito@tresys.com>, selinux@tycho.nsa.gov
Subject: Re: [PATCH] SE-PostgreSQL Security Policy
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 11:16:44 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47D16A6C.7090909@manicmethod.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47D0A68B.1030002@ak.jp.nec.com>
Kohei KaiGai wrote:
> Joshua Brindle wrote:
>> Christopher J. PeBenito wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 17:00 +0900, Kohei KaiGai wrote:
>>>
>>>> The attached patch provides security policies related to
>>>> SE-PostgreSQL.
>>>>
>>>> The followings are updates/unchanges from the previous version
>>>> submitted
>>>> at two weeks ago. These updates replaced most of the part in the
>>>> previous
>>>> one.
>>>>
>>>> - The targets of this patch are moved to services/postgresql.*,
>>>> although the previous one added new entries.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> +tunable_policy(`sepgsql_enable_auditallow',`
>>>> + auditallow domain sepgsql_database_type : db_database
>>>> all_db_database_perms;
>>>> + auditallow domain sepgsql_table_type : db_table
>>>> all_db_table_perms;
>>>> + auditallow domain sepgsql_table_type : db_column
>>>> all_db_column_perms;
>>>> + auditallow domain sepgsql_procedure_type : db_procedure
>>>> all_db_procedure_perms;
>>>> + auditallow domain sepgsql_blob_type : db_blob
>>>> all_db_blob_perms;
>>>> + auditallow domain sepgsql_server_type : db_blob { import
>>>> export };
>>>> + auditallow domain sepgsql_module_type : db_database {
>>>> install_module };
>>>> +')
>>>>
>>
>>
>> A couple questions about the install_module and load_module
>> permissions. First they seem here to be refering to
>> sepgsql_module_type as the object which currently are lib_t and
>> textrel_shlib_t, file types. So the object class of db_database seems
>> to be inaccurate.
>
> Is it appropriate to define a new permission in file class to associate
> a database with a library file?
>
Its an interesting question of how to handle this situation, not just
now but in the future.
>> Also, after looking at the code I don't see why install_module and
>> load_module need to be different permissions, granted they are a
>> privileged operation but why not collapse them into a single access
>> vector?
>
> load_module is a permission to associate a database and a loadable
> module,
> like filesystem:associate permission.
>
> When we tries to load a shared library module, the following permissins
> are required.
>
> (Client) (Shared Library) : db_database install_module;
> (Client) (Database) : db_database install_module;
> (Database) (Shared Library) : db_database load_module;
>
> `install_module' defines a relationship between a client and
> database/library.
> `load_module' defines a relationship between a database and library.
>
I see, do you have an actual use case for load_module? I don't know that
filesystem:associate has ever been used in a useful way, though I might
just not know of such a use.
>> Also, why are blobs a separate object class? How is it a privileged
>> operation to use blobs in a table? As far as reading and writing them
>> they should be treated like any other column, shouldn't they?
>
> In MySQL, blob is one of the data types, and it can be stored in a table.
> However, blob is a set of tuples stored in pg_largeobject system catalog
> in PostgreSQL. To separate large binary object into small blocks improves
> ramdam access performance, but dameges to consistency in access control.
> It is the reason why SE-PostgreSQL need special care for blobs.
>
> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.3/static/catalog-pg-largeobject.html
>
> BTW, current PostgreSQL does not have any access controls mechanism
> in large object. :(
>
Hrm, I am going to have to ponder this one a little while longer then,
I'm much more familiar with how MySQL handles blobs than PostGres.
>> And one more question. I see you have a type transition for
>> sepgsql_proc_t but I never saw sepgsql_proc_t as the subject of any
>> rules, which I don't understand. The hooks appear to always use the
>> client_sid as the subject but for stored procedures to be useful they
>> may need to access data that the client wouldn't be able to, or did I
>> miss something?
>
> When a sepgsql_client_domain invokes sepgsql_trusted_proc_t, the
> client_sid
> is transted into sepgsql_trusted_domain_t.
> However, domain transition is kept in invokations for another
> procedure type.
> sepgsql_proc_t is always a object type, as postgresql_exex_t is always
> a file
> type, not a domain.
>
What if you call multiple procedures in a single call? Are the domain
transition lifetimes limited to while the procedure is running? Are the
other columns queried in the same query the original caller context?
e.g., if I did:
select fname, lname, get_ssn(ssn), dob, get_cr(cr);
and there were type_transitions for get_ssn and get_cr, how are the
transitions handled?
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-03-07 16:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-13 9:29 [PATCH] SE-PostgreSQL Security Policy Kohei KaiGai
2008-02-25 16:30 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2008-02-26 3:07 ` Kohei KaiGai
2008-02-27 8:00 ` Kohei KaiGai
2008-03-04 15:16 ` KaiGai Kohei
2008-03-06 15:27 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2008-03-06 18:51 ` Joshua Brindle
2008-03-07 2:20 ` Kohei KaiGai
2008-03-07 16:16 ` Joshua Brindle [this message]
2008-03-08 1:33 ` KaiGai Kohei
2008-03-07 1:52 ` Kohei KaiGai
2008-03-07 9:32 ` Kohei KaiGai
2008-03-07 20:48 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2008-03-09 14:24 ` KaiGai Kohei
2008-03-11 12:57 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2008-03-11 16:57 ` KaiGai Kohei
2008-03-12 8:42 ` Kohei KaiGai
2008-03-17 9:31 ` [PATCH] SE-PostgreSQL Security Policy (try #3) Kohei KaiGai
2008-03-19 14:45 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2008-03-21 4:32 ` KaiGai Kohei
2008-03-21 5:11 ` KaiGai Kohei
2008-03-24 18:44 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2008-03-25 10:35 ` KaiGai Kohei
2008-03-25 13:24 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2008-03-27 9:52 ` KaiGai Kohei
2008-03-27 13:23 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2008-03-28 4:50 ` KaiGai Kohei
2008-05-05 13:48 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2008-05-12 2:31 ` KaiGai Kohei
2008-05-12 14:33 ` KaiGai Kohei
[not found] ` <1210615044.11188.17.camel@gorn>
2008-05-13 2:39 ` KaiGai Kohei
2008-03-10 7:52 ` [PATCH] SE-PostgreSQL Security Policy Kohei KaiGai
2008-03-11 12:30 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2008-03-11 13:03 ` KaiGai Kohei
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