From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [216.145.245.198] (helo=mx02.dls.net) by linuxtogo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JdQCm-0006zG-9Q for openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2008 14:25:44 +0100 Received: from gw.mwester.net ([209.242.5.110] helo=[192.168.1.111]) by mx02.dls.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JdQCj-0005U0-LR for openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2008 08:25:42 -0500 Message-ID: <47E65A55.6010107@dls.net> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 08:25:41 -0500 From: "Mike (mwester)" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org References: <200803180849.21108.geoffrey@pager.net> <1205858910.7500.39.camel@dax.rpnet.com> <47E5A67B.5030809@dls.net> <47E5E7DD.4030304@dls.net> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [RFC] move to opkg X-BeenThere: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org List-Id: Using the OpenEmbedded metadata to build Distributions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 13:25:44 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Koen Kooi wrote: ... > I believe these sorts of problems stem from the fact that you don't have > the time to keep up with the pace of .dev, Bullshit. You sent the RFC on Tuesday, with ZERO documentation on the impact. See the email chain -- you were practically evasive on the impact to distro maintainers. You them made the change on before even a week had gone by, a holiday weekend at that. Actually it was closer to 4 days (total) and no documentation at all for anyone to assess the impact. No, the problem is that YOU didn't take the time to wait before you jammed a totally undocumented and insufficently-understood highly-invasive change onto the entire community! so I really think distros > like unslung are better of using the stable branch, instead of wasting > energy trying to keep up with .dev. You just jumped to a conclusion. Unslung was mentioned ONCE. This is the SlugOS distro - I haven't even gotten to try to untangle Unslung yet. And no, this change was not yet ready for .dev -- this should have been on a branch where it could have been tested against other distros. Don't shove your pushing of an unfinished bit of work onto anyone else as their fault. > That being said, I don't think OE developers sit at their desks trying > to thinks how to make life difficult for distro maintainer. Nope. I don't think that either. I think that merely one particular change got pushed because one particular developer decided it was too difficult for him to document more thoroughly and was too impatient to wait for more feedback. > Koen Now, how about a helpful email? You sent your email accusing me of being to lazy and unable to keep up with .dev. I've responded in kind with my email. Koen, how about solving a problem instead of just trying to blame me? Mike (mwester)