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From: Scott Lovenberg <scott.lovenberg@gmail.com>
To: "Jörn Engel" <joern@logfs.org>
Cc: Peter Teoh <htmldeveloper@gmail.com>,
	kernelnewbies <kernelnewbies@nl.linux.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, ext3-users@redhat.com
Subject: Re: "Write once only but read many" filesystem
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 00:49:17 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47E732CD.3070202@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080322165906.GC19347@logfs.org>

Jörn Engel wrote:
> On Sat, 22 March 2008 23:55:53 +0800, Peter Teoh wrote:
>>>   Or do you want individual files/directories to be immutable - chattr?
>> chattr is not good enough, as root can still modify it.   So if
>> current feature is not there, then some small development may be
>> needed.
>>
>>>  And in either case, what problem do you want to solve with a read-only filesystem?
>> Simple:   i want to record down everything that a user does, or a
>> database does, or any applications running - just record down its
>> state permanently securely into the filesystem, knowing that for sure,
>> there is not way to modify the data, short of recreating the
>> filesystem again.    Sound logical?   Or is there any loophole in this
>> concept?
> 
> The loophole is called root.  In a normal setup, root can do anything,
> including writing directly to the device your filesystem resides in,
> writing to kernel memory, etc.
> 
> It may be rather inconvenient to change a filesystem by writing to the
> block device, but far from impossible.  If you want to make such changes
> impossible, you are facing an uphill battle that I personally don't care
> about.  And if inconvenience is good enough, wouldn't chattr be
> sufficiently inconvenient?
> 
> Jörn
> 

How about mounting an isofs via loopback?  This has the added benefit of 
being ready to be exported to disc.  You can make it with mkisofs on a 
directory structure and mount it to the tree with a normal mount(1).  If 
it asks for fs type on mount, I think its 'iso9660'.
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  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-24  4:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-14 16:17 filesystem differentiation Peter Teoh
2008-03-14 23:24 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-03-22  4:39   ` "Write once only but read many" filesystem Peter Teoh
     [not found]     ` <20080322102331.GA19347@logfs.org>
     [not found]       ` <804dabb00803220752h670757d8o9c1b7fa3696467bc@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]         ` <20080322150626.GB19347@logfs.org>
2008-03-22 15:55           ` Peter Teoh
2008-03-22 16:59             ` Jörn Engel
2008-03-24  4:49               ` Scott Lovenberg [this message]
2008-03-24  6:35                 ` Peter Teoh
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-03-24  6:45 Peter Teoh
2008-03-24 16:56 ` Bryan Henderson
2008-03-25  0:47   ` Peter Teoh
2008-03-25 15:22     ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-03-25 18:42       ` Bryan Henderson
2008-03-25 18:32     ` Bryan Henderson
2008-03-26  2:27       ` Peter Teoh
2008-03-26 16:49         ` Bryan Henderson

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