From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1760099AbYDBACw (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Apr 2008 20:02:52 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756810AbYDBACo (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Apr 2008 20:02:44 -0400 Received: from eth7959.sa.adsl.internode.on.net ([150.101.82.22]:35722 "EHLO hawking.rebel.net.au" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756809AbYDBACn (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Apr 2008 20:02:43 -0400 Message-ID: <47F2CD1B.7060804@davidnewall.com> Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 10:32:35 +1030 From: David Newall User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080227) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jan Engelhardt CC: "H. Peter Anvin" , "John T." , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: UTF-8 and Alt key in the console References: <205509.99433.qm@web45710.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <47ED7EBD.8070009@zytor.com> <47ED8C13.5060509@zytor.com> <47EDE2A4.8080702@davidnewall.com> <47EE76BD.2000708@zytor.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Jan Engelhardt wrote: > Hence the proposal of using definite start and end markers: > > echo -e '\x1B43m\x1D wonderful \x1B0m\x1D' | cosmicrays | cat I see no merit in the idea. Most seriously, there isn't any real-world problem being solved. In addition, it proposes creating yet another type of terminal emulation. If there's something you don't like about VT escape codes, use a different emulation. For example, Televideo terminals used almost exclusively single-character control codes, reducing the scope of being mid-sequence to, well much closer to zero. You need to make quite clear that your proposal is to discontinue use of VT terminal emulation.