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From: "Thomas Hellström" <thomas@tungstengraphics.com>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Dave Airlie <airlied@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	mingo@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: create array based interface to change page attribute
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 08:59:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47F32EDD.1080306@tungstengraphics.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47F3294E.8090805@linux.intel.com>

Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> Thomas Hellström wrote:
>
>> But what mappings are there,  immediately after alloc_page(), that 
>> set_memory_np won't catch? 
>
> For example on x86 64bit, the kernel text is mapped (to allow 
> relocatable) in another
> space as well.. and to allow 2Mb tlbs for this, that second mapping is 
> bigger than it strictly needs to be.
> So your alloc_page() could get a page from the free pool that comes 
> from the pages that have a second mapping
> due to this rounding.
> (and more fun, since it's close to frequently accessed memory, the hw 
> prefetchers may actually just decide to pull
> such pages into the cache preemptively)
>
>
>> Drivers relying on set_memory_uc touching all mappings the driver 
>> hasn't set up itself must then have the same problem and needs to be 
>> fixed; referring in particular to agpgart for which driver the old 
>> CPA functionality was once created, IIRC.
>
> "uc" is different than "np"; for "uc" the implementation, if your cpu 
> needs this, will fix
> up the shadow text mappings already today.
>
> for "present" this doesn't make sense, since no cpu needs this.
If this is the checkalias() thingy in x86/pageattr.c, it looks like it 
doesn't handle np different from the uc case. It does obviously skip NX 
bit manipulations, though.

Anyway, a more direct question: If we were to fix whatever's missing for 
the code to fixup the x86-64 shadow text mapping, would you be opposing 
this way to fix the long standing uc/wc aliasing issue, provided we 
don't hit any other problems, like clflush() refusing to run on an NP page?

/Thomas




  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-02  7:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-31  5:19 [PATCH] x86: create array based interface to change page attribute Dave Airlie
2008-03-31  6:54 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-03-31  9:33   ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-03-31 11:04     ` Thomas Hellström
2008-03-31  7:25 ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-31  7:55   ` Thomas Hellström
2008-03-31  8:38     ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-31  9:06       ` Thomas Hellström
2008-03-31  9:18         ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-31 11:10           ` Thomas Hellström
2008-03-31 16:08             ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-03-31 16:41               ` Thomas Hellström
2008-03-31 16:49                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-03-31 17:26                   ` Thomas Hellström
2008-04-01 20:58                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-01 21:29                       ` Thomas Hellström
2008-04-01 22:30                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-02  6:30                           ` Thomas Hellström
2008-04-02  6:35                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-02  6:59                               ` Thomas Hellström [this message]
2008-04-02 14:01                                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-02 17:57                                   ` Thomas Hellström
2008-04-07 18:23                                     ` Jesse Barnes
2008-04-07 19:51                                       ` Thomas Hellström
2008-04-07 19:59                                         ` Jesse Barnes
2008-04-07 20:46                                           ` Thomas Hellström
2008-04-07 20:57                                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-08  6:12                                               ` Thomas Hellström
2008-04-07 21:04                                             ` Jesse Barnes
2008-04-08  6:21                                               ` Thomas Hellström
2008-04-08 14:27                                                 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-04-07 20:56                                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-07 21:02                                             ` Jesse Barnes
2008-04-07 21:09                                               ` Jesse Barnes
2008-03-31  9:56   ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-03-31 11:21   ` Dave Airlie
2008-03-31 11:46     ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-02  1:35       ` Dave Airlie
2008-04-01 18:20 ` Arjan van de Ven

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