From: Bernd Schmidt <bernds_cb1@t-online.de>
To: Mike Frysinger <vapier.adi@gmail.com>
Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Greg Ungerer <gerg@snapgear.com>,
David McCullough <David_Mccullough@securecomputing.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Bryan Wu <Bryan.Wu@analog.com>,
Robin Getz <rgetz@blackfin.uclinux.org>
Subject: Re: nommu: handling anonymous mmap clearing in userspace rather than kernel
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:03:07 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47F3A02B.5070302@t-online.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8bd0f97a0804020747r2d7c2802pa18cf08eced3821b@mail.gmail.com>
Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 10:20 AM, David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Mike Frysinger <vapier.adi@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > a workaround: introduce a new no-mmu-only mmap flag MAP_UNINITIALIZE
>> > to signal to the kernel that it should skip the memset(). this way,
>> > userspace malloc() can do mmap(MAP_ANONYMOUS|MAP_UNINITIALIZE) to get
>> > large chunks of memory without affecting any other anonymous mmap()
>> > call.
>>
>> I think that's reasonable for NOMMU. It's not like the process accessing the
>> uninitialised memory is prevented from accessing anything it wants to anyway.
>>
>> I would vote that the memset() should only be skipped if requested as there
>> may be programs that call mmap(MAP_ANONYMOUS) expecting the memory they're
>> given to be zeroed out.
>
> in the second proposal, the C library would be expected to do this, so
> no programs would be broken. but you're right that any program that
> invokes the mmap() syscall directly would not get zeroed memory ...
> but is anyone doing such a crazy thing, let alone on embedded ?
It's not a guarantee we should break. What's wrong with just using the
MAP_UNINITIALIZE code we have?
Bernd
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-02 15:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-01 21:34 nommu: handling anonymous mmap clearing in userspace rather than kernel Mike Frysinger
2008-04-02 14:20 ` David Howells
2008-04-02 14:47 ` Mike Frysinger
2008-04-02 15:03 ` Bernd Schmidt [this message]
2008-04-02 15:07 ` Mike Frysinger
2008-04-03 11:06 ` Bernd Schmidt
2008-04-03 13:14 ` David Howells
2008-04-03 14:46 ` Mike Frysinger
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