From: Max Krasnyanskiy <maxk@qualcomm.com>
To: dor.laor@qumranet.com
Cc: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 3/5] tun: vringfd receive support.
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:02:49 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47FE4839.6020904@qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1207745195.13196.10.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Dor Laor wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 12:49 -0700, Max Krasnyansky wrote:
>> Rusty Russell wrote:
>>> This patch modifies tun to allow a vringfd to specify the receive
>>> buffer. Because we can't copy to userspace in bh context, we queue
>>> like normal then use the "pull" hook to actually do the copy.
>>>
>>> More thought needs to be put into the possible races with ring
>>> registration and a simultaneous close, for example (see FIXME).
>>>
>>> We use struct virtio_net_hdr prepended to packets in the ring to allow
>>> userspace to receive GSO packets in future (at the moment, the tun
>>> driver doesn't tell the stack it can handle them, so these cases are
>>> never taken).
>> In general the code looks good. The only thing I could not convince myself in
>> is whether having generic ring buffer makes sense or not.
>> At least the TUN driver would be more efficient if it had its own simple ring
>> implementation. Less indirection, fewer callbacks, fewer if()s, etc. TUN
>> already has the file descriptor and having two additional fds for rx and tx
>> ring is a waste (think of a VPN server that has to have a bunch of TUN fds).
>> Also as I mentioned before Jamal and I wanted to expose some of the SKB fields
>> through TUN device. With the rx/tx rings the natural way of doing that would
>> be the ring descriptor itself. It can of course be done the same way we copy
>> proto info (PI) and GSO stuff before the packet but that means more
>> copy_to_user() calls and yet more checks.
>>
>> So. What am I missing ? Why do we need generic ring for the TUN ? I looked at
>> the lguest code a bit and it seems that we need a bunch of network specific
>> code anyway. The cool thing is that you can now mmap the rings into the guest
>> directly but the same thing can be done with TUN specific rings.
>>
>
> The idea was to use the same virtio ring that the guests use.
> The thing with TUN specific ring is that the guests are the one
> allocating the rings within their memory space and the opposite makes
> life very complex.
We can do the same thing with TUN rings. I mean have them allocated in the
guest space. With that we'd still have all of the advantages that I listed
above. ie We'd have ring descriptors that carry packet info, less indirection,
etc.
Max
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-10 17:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-05 12:02 [PATCH RFC 1/5] vringfd syscall Rusty Russell
2008-04-05 12:04 ` [PATCH RFC 2/5] vringfd base/offset Rusty Russell
2008-04-05 17:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-04-05 17:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-04-06 3:23 ` Rusty Russell
2008-04-06 3:23 ` Rusty Russell
2008-04-05 12:04 ` Rusty Russell
2008-04-05 12:05 ` [PATCH RFC 3/5] tun: vringfd receive support Rusty Russell
2008-04-05 12:06 ` [PATCH RFC 4/5] tun: vringfd xmit support Rusty Russell
2008-04-05 12:06 ` Rusty Russell
2008-04-05 12:09 ` [PATCH RFC 5/5] lguest support Rusty Russell
2008-04-05 12:09 ` Rusty Russell
2008-04-07 5:13 ` [PATCH RFC 4/5] tun: vringfd xmit support Herbert Xu
2008-04-07 7:24 ` Rusty Russell
2008-04-07 7:35 ` David Miller
2008-04-07 7:35 ` David Miller
2008-04-08 1:51 ` Rusty Russell
2008-04-08 1:51 ` Rusty Russell
2008-04-07 7:24 ` Rusty Russell
2008-04-07 5:13 ` Herbert Xu
2008-04-08 19:49 ` [PATCH RFC 3/5] tun: vringfd receive support Max Krasnyansky
2008-04-09 12:46 ` Dor Laor
2008-04-10 17:02 ` Max Krasnyanskiy [this message]
2008-04-10 17:02 ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-04-09 12:46 ` Dor Laor
2008-04-10 5:44 ` Rusty Russell
2008-04-10 17:18 ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-04-10 17:18 ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-04-10 5:44 ` Rusty Russell
2008-04-08 19:49 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-04-05 12:05 ` Rusty Russell
2008-04-05 17:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-04-05 17:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-04-05 12:44 ` [PATCH RFC 2/5] vringfd base/offset Avi Kivity
2008-04-06 2:54 ` Rusty Russell
2008-04-06 2:54 ` Rusty Russell
2008-04-05 12:44 ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-08 5:14 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-04-08 5:14 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-04-07 17:54 ` [PATCH RFC 1/5] vringfd syscall Jonathan Corbet
2008-04-07 17:54 ` Jonathan Corbet
2008-04-07 22:34 ` Rusty Russell
2008-04-07 22:34 ` Rusty Russell
2008-04-08 2:35 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-04-08 2:35 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-04-08 2:35 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-04-09 19:28 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-09 19:28 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-12 17:18 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-04-12 17:39 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-04-12 17:39 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-04-12 18:19 ` Rusty Russell
2008-04-12 18:19 ` Rusty Russell
2008-04-12 17:18 ` Marcelo Tosatti
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