From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755111AbYDMWZz (ORCPT ); Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:25:55 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752390AbYDMWZn (ORCPT ); Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:25:43 -0400 Received: from elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.68]:47096 "EHLO elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752267AbYDMWZm (ORCPT ); Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:25:42 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=YpA9fvZWj4zXZOwFUjw8BaNVioPi5Oth9QgIEQ+ZM2P/9cG2KPABRno61fABKbyU; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <48028830.6020703@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:24:48 -0400 From: Stephen Clark Reply-To: sclark46@earthlink.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080226) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Evgeniy Polyakov CC: "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Andrew Morton , Willy Tarreau , Tilman Schmidt , Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, Mark Lord , David Miller , jesper.juhl@gmail.com, yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org, jeff@garzik.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Reporting bugs and bisection References: <47FEADCB.7070104@rtr.ca> <20080413121831.d89dd424.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20080413202118.GA29658@2ka.mipt.ru> <200804132233.50491.rjw@sisk.pl> <20080413205406.GA9190@2ka.mipt.ru> In-Reply-To: <20080413205406.GA9190@2ka.mipt.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: a437fbc6971e80f61aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79c62e61511a8d0fa45cc246f9d24c3f7c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.144.77.185 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Evgeniy Polyakov wrote: > On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 10:33:49PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki (rjw@sisk.pl) wrote: >> Things like this are very disappointing and have a very negative impact on bug >> reporters. We should do our best to avoid them. > > Shit happens. This is a matter of either bug report or those who were in > the copy list. There are different people and different situations, in > which they do not reply. > Well less shit would happen if developers would take the time to at least test their patches before they were submitted. It like we will just have the poor user do our testing for us. What kind of testing do developers do. I been a linux user and have followed the LKML for a number of years and have yet to see any test plans for any submitted patches. My $.02 Steve Clark -- "They that give up essential liberty to obtain temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Ben Franklin) "The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases." (Thomas Jefferson)