From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Rene Herman Subject: Re: What does 0dB refer to? (Logitech USB Speakers) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:28:49 +0200 Message-ID: <48039451.9020301@keyaccess.nl> References: <20080411204610.GA32413@tango.0pointer.de> <20080412133536.GC32491@tango.0pointer.de> <4800FC14.3060804@superbug.co.uk> <200804122025.57165.faber@faberman.de> <48010CF9.4000600@superbug.co.uk> <20080412214143.GB2828@localhost> <48012FD7.6050904@superbug.co.uk> <48013316.80806@keyaccess.nl> <20080414165811.GG22115@tango.0pointer.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl (smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl [213.51.130.200]) by alsa0.perex.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EEC52457A for ; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:25:59 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <20080414165811.GG22115@tango.0pointer.de> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: alsa-devel-bounces@alsa-project.org Errors-To: alsa-devel-bounces@alsa-project.org To: mznyfn@0pointer.de Cc: Florian Faber , alsa-devel@alsa-project.org List-Id: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org On 14-04-08 18:58, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Sun, 13.04.08 00:09, Rene Herman (rene.herman@keyaccess.nl) wrote: >> I believe it can be concluded that there is no "generally good level". ALSA >> should ship /usr/share/alsa/cards/.state files which at least lets a >> driver author decide on a sensible set of default mixer settings. > > Yet another file that needs to be maintained. I don't believe this would be a huge problem, but yes, it's a downside. > Why not export this data like all the other data from the kernel? That > way other apps (not just alsactl) could make use of this information. While I'm not particularly up on the issue, I believe controls which may be implemented completely in userspace means you definitely need to go through alsa-lib to get _possibly_ sensible results. Rene.