From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 0/2] Immediate Values - jump patching update
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:06:14 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48165866.5060403@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080428224438.GA6974@elte.hu>
Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:
>
>> What I'm proposing is:
>>
>>> [ .... fastpath head ...... ]
>>> [ .... 5-byte CALL .......... ] ---> NOP-ed out
>>> [ .... fastpath tail .......... ]
>>> [ ............................. ]
>> The call site is created with an asm() statement as opposed to a gcc
>> function call; it is up to the logging function to take the state and
>> mangle it into whatever format it wants to; the debugging information
>> (e.g. DWARF) should tell it all it needs to know about how the
>> register/memory state maps onto the C state. This mapping can either
>> be done online, with a small piece of dynamic code, or offline
>> (although offline makes it tricky to know what memory tems to gather.)
>
> that would be rather impractical as we'd force DEBUG_INFO builds on
> anyone (it's HUGE) just to do some trivial tracing. Look at the ftrace
> plugin usage model - it wants to be widely available and easy to use.
>
Otherwise you're forcing everyone to take the cost of additional cache
footprint, plus optimizer interference, just because they might want to
possibly do some trivial tracing. DEBUG_INFO is The Right Thing for
this, as it carries all the information you may want in a well-defined
format. You don't necessarily have to keep all this information around,
of course; you can distill out the information for the trace sites at
compile time and keep a tracer information file, after which you can
strip the information.
There is actually yet another alternative, though, which is to build the
tracer at compile time. The tricky part of this is that it almost
requires inserting a preprocessor before the assembler, and use really
ugly asm() macros to extract the very information that the debug format
is designed explicitly to extract!
Personally, I think requiring DEBUG_INFO is a helluva lot less ugly than
these branch hacks.
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-28 23:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-28 3:34 [patch 0/2] Immediate Values - jump patching update Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-28 3:34 ` [patch 1/2] Immediate Values - jump liveliness Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-28 3:34 ` [patch 2/2] Markers - use imv_cond " Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-28 12:48 ` [patch 0/2] Immediate Values - jump patching update Ingo Molnar
2008-04-28 14:35 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-28 17:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-28 20:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-28 21:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-28 22:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-28 22:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-28 22:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-28 23:06 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2008-04-29 0:47 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-04-29 1:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-29 12:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-05-14 14:53 ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-29 1:46 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-29 2:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-29 12:18 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-29 15:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-04 14:54 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-05-04 21:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
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