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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>
Cc: Mikael Pettersson <mikpe@it.uu.se>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	mingo@elte.hu, tglx@linutronix.de, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, roland@redhat.com, drepper@redhat.com,
	Hongjiu.lu@intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	arjan@linux.intel.com, rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk, dan@debian.org,
	asit.k.mallick@intel.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] x86: xsave/xrstor support, ucontext_t extensions
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 14:02:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4835DF64.6080104@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080522205619.GB7998@linux-os.sc.intel.com>

Suresh Siddha wrote:
> 
> hpa, What is the virtualization problem? Are you referring to perf problem?
> As you noted, regular non-rt signal handlers won't need this cpuid check. It's
> needed only for those who manually look at non-rt signal frames and interpret it.
> And also, they can do this check only once and not everytime.
> 

No, relying on CPUID and vdso both have implications for virtualization.

> To me, prtcl() just seems to be an overkill.

I don't think it is ... it's not overkill but rather "underkill"... it's 
a low-performance solution but it's guaranteed to be safe in the 
presence of virtualization of all its various ilk.  Note that you don't 
need to be able to *set* the format via prctl(), just *query* (get) it.

Using prctl() allows us to make this personality-dependent if we ever 
need to.

> While restoring from the user, kernel also need to find out what layout
> the user is passing. So it's bi-directional. I prefer the same mechanism
> (using cookies/magic numbers etc inaddition to uc_flags or cpuid checks) to
> interpret the fpstate for both user/kernel.

No, it really doesn't: the kernel only needs to be able to read the same 
format as it itself wrote.

> ARM also seem to be using similar things while extending their ucontext_t,
> with out other kernel interfaces to indicate the layout.
> 
> BTW, how come 32bit kernel doesn't have the X86_FXSR_MAGIC checks, while restoring
> the extended fxsave data from _fpstate?

Again, the kernel already knows the format, so it doesn't need to check.

	-hpa

  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-22 21:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-13  1:10 [RFC] x86: xsave/xrstor support, ucontext_t extensions Suresh Siddha
2008-05-16 13:26 ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-05-18  1:34   ` Suresh Siddha
2008-05-19 14:52     ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-05-19 15:04       ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-19 16:29       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-19 16:57         ` Suresh Siddha
2008-05-19 17:45           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-20  1:57       ` Suresh Siddha
2008-05-20  8:58         ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-05-20 10:01         ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-20 13:19           ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-05-20 14:58             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-20 15:20               ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-05-20 17:53                 ` Suresh Siddha
2008-05-20 17:59                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-22  0:28                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-22  0:53                     ` Roland McGrath
2008-05-22  1:38                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-22  6:40                         ` Roland McGrath
2008-05-22  7:18                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-22  8:49                       ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-05-22  8:57                     ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-05-22 20:56                       ` Suresh Siddha
2008-05-22 21:02                         ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2008-05-22 21:29                           ` Suresh Siddha
2008-05-22 21:34                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-22 22:22                               ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-05-23  1:48                               ` Suresh Siddha
2008-05-23  2:12                                 ` Roland McGrath
2008-05-23  2:49                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-23 18:09                                     ` Suresh Siddha
2008-06-06  0:28                                       ` x86: xsave/xrstor support; " H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-06 20:14                                         ` Suresh Siddha
2008-06-06 23:03                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-23  2:45                                 ` [RFC] x86: xsave/xrstor support, " H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-23 11:46                                   ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-05-23 12:11                                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-22 21:32                           ` Chris Wright
2008-05-22 22:15                             ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-05-22 22:29                               ` Chris Wright
2008-05-23  0:32                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-23  0:44                                   ` Chris Wright
2008-05-22 22:36                           ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-05-23  0:33                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-23  0:42                               ` Suresh Siddha
2008-05-23  1:33                                 ` Roland McGrath
2008-05-23 16:57                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-23 17:50                                     ` Suresh Siddha
2008-05-23  2:27                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-20 17:57                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-20 14:55           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-20 15:03             ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-20 20:10               ` Roland McGrath
2008-05-22  0:05                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-22  0:47                   ` Roland McGrath
2008-05-22  8:14                     ` Andi Kleen

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