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From: Fabrice Bellard <fabrice@bellard.org>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: KQEMU code organization
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 14:29:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <483EA1AD.1010901@bellard.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <483D8E9A.40509@siemens.com>

Jan Kiszka wrote:
> Fabrice Bellard wrote:
>> Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>> Fabrice Bellard wrote:
>>>> Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> is there a technical reason why the kqemu kernel module is built out of
>>>>> a binary blob (monitor-image.bin->monitor-image.h)? Does this simply
>>>>> date back to the time when wrapper and core were distributed under
>>>>> different licenses?
>>>> This is a technical reason: the "blob" is run in an address space
>>>> different from the host kernel.
>>> Well, easy to claim, I know, but I don't think this is a hard reason.
>>> However, as overcoming genmon and genoffset may require quite some
>>> refactoring, I'm not sure if it's worth it.
>> I may change the monitor blob format to ELF to allow relocation, but the
>> idea stays the same, and I don't think you can do it another way...
> 
> I agree (from my current knowledge of the problem) that the monitor
> remains "foreign" code to the kernel module. But at least the
> repackaging into a c-structure should be unnecessary.
> 
> The offset generation can be skipped if the assembly files are converted
> into inline assembly. Might be tricky in some cases, but I see no
> show-stopper yet.

This is purely cosmetic and I am generally against such changes.

> The give it a tiny start, I will look if I can unify the build process
> for all "true" kernel components. That is what currently breaks the
> debugability of the driver frame (up to kernel2monitor), and which also
> causes a kbuild warning. Likely harmless ATM, but it is fragile on
> long-term.

For true kernel components I agree it is useful.

Regarding the kqemu evolution, I am doing small API changes to make it 
more independent from the QEMU internal data structures and to allow 
usage from a 32 bit user QEMU application with a 64 bit host. There is 
also another small change I did some time ago but never published to 
allow paravirtualization of the Linux kernel.

Fabrice.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-05-29 12:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-27 16:56 [Qemu-devel] KQEMU code organization Jan Kiszka
2008-05-27 17:20 ` Ben Taylor
2008-05-27 18:25   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2008-05-27 20:58 ` [Qemu-devel] " Fabrice Bellard
2008-05-27 21:40   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2008-05-27 22:11 ` [Qemu-devel] " Fabrice Bellard
2008-05-28 16:02   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2008-05-28 16:37     ` Fabrice Bellard
2008-05-28 16:55       ` Jan Kiszka
2008-05-28 18:34         ` Jan Kiszka
2008-05-29 12:29         ` Fabrice Bellard [this message]
2008-05-29 13:16           ` Jan Kiszka
2008-05-29 16:13           ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-29 16:26             ` Paul Brook
2008-05-29 16:35               ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-29 17:43                 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-05-29 21:46                   ` Fabrice Bellard
2008-05-30  3:32                     ` Mulyadi Santosa
2008-05-30  8:14                       ` Andreas Färber
2008-05-29 16:26             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-05-29 16:53               ` Jan Kiszka
2008-05-29 17:48                 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-05-31 10:18                 ` Avi Kivity
2008-06-02 16:34                   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-29 21:52               ` Fabrice Bellard
2008-05-31 10:06                 ` Avi Kivity
2008-06-01 22:58                 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-06-02  9:02                   ` Fabrice Bellard
2008-06-02 13:25                     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-05-29 16:48             ` Jan Kiszka
2008-05-29 17:47               ` Anthony Liguori

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