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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] An organizational suggestion
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 11:54:25 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48457741.9070302@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18501.25321.636839.502256@mariner.uk.xensource.com>

Ian Jackson wrote:
> Jamie Lokier writes ("Re: [Qemu-devel] An organizational suggestion"):
>   
>> It's the Linus Torvalds school of flow control.  If you don't get a
>> reply, try again.
>>     
>
> I see.  That seems rather rude to me, so I don't do it.  Am I really
> supposed to keep a list of my outstanding patches and retransmit them
> like some kind of bandwidth-hogging peer-to-peer application ?
>   

The DCO process can really help here.  The simple fact is that most of 
the committers to QEMU are not paid to be full-time maintainers.  As 
such, their time is limited.  There is a lot of noise on qemu-devel 
(this thread being a good example ;-)).

If you review a patch, and are happy with it, offer an Acked-by.  When 
comitters go through reviewing patches to commit, it makes it much 
easier for them to determine whether a patch should be committed or not.

> If everyone did that, then the number of patches accepted would go
> down rather than up, surely ?  Because everyone would be spending
> their time wading through all these resends, rather than paying
> attention to the content.
>   

Try marking the subject with [RESEND].  Quite a lot of projects require 
patches to be resent.  In fact, in the early days of Xen, this was often 
the case.  [RESEND] tends to be a polite way to help maintainers be more 
responsive too.

> Also - implicit in your comment that it's a form of `flow control' is
> that it's caused by a lack of upstream capacity.  I think that part is
> very true.  We do have a lack of capacity, which can be solved in this
> case by adding one or more people I think.
>   

There are already a lot of committers in QEMU.  There are 9 people with 
commit access to QEMU.  There is only 1 person with commit access to KVM 
and that includes a full copy of QEMU.  What's needed is someone to take 
the time, on a day-by-day basis, to review patches, and queue them.

Magnus posted a list of outstanding patches a while ago, I think that's 
the right approach.  I'll spend some time today to try and collect 
outstanding patches.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> Qemu is not a very large project in the grand scheme of things, and we
> can hopefully avoid the kind of very cumbersome and heavyweight
> processes which surround the Linux kernel.
>
> Ian.
>
>
>   

  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-03 16:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-03  5:42 [Qemu-devel] An organizational suggestion Balazs Attila-Mihaly (Cd-MaN)
2008-06-03  9:27 ` Ian Jackson
2008-06-03 10:00   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-03 10:19     ` Ian Jackson
2008-06-03 11:03       ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-03 12:32         ` Ian Jackson
2008-06-03 13:01           ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2008-06-03 14:26             ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-03 22:24           ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-06-03 13:45       ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-03 14:02         ` Ian Jackson
2008-06-03 14:35           ` Paul Brook
2008-06-03 14:41             ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-03 14:55               ` Paul Brook
2008-06-03 15:14                 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-03 14:54             ` Laurent Vivier
2008-06-03 15:04             ` Ian Jackson
2008-06-03 15:17               ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-03 15:27                 ` Ian Jackson
2008-06-03 16:54                   ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2008-06-03 19:26                   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-03 15:24               ` Laurent Vivier
2008-06-03 20:37               ` Anthony Liguori
2008-06-03 20:27           ` Anthony Liguori
2008-06-03 10:23     ` Andreas Färber
2008-06-03 11:09       ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2008-06-03 12:36         ` Ian Jackson
2008-06-03 12:48           ` Daniel P. Berrange
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-06-03 10:11 [Qemu-devel] " Balazs Attila-Mihaly (Cd-MaN)
2008-06-03 15:36 Balazs Attila-Mihaly (Cd-MaN)
2008-06-03 16:59 ` Andreas Färber

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