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From: Wendy Cheng <s.wendy.cheng@gmail.com>
To: Frank Steiner <fsteiner-mail1-G0GEQqhI7DhYiKXMg8wJIg@public.gmane.org>
Cc: nfs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [NFS] Does "sync" cause the FUA bit to be set?
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:44:06 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <484EA146.8070201@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <484E5AC1.3020200-G0GEQqhI7DhYiKXMg8wJIg@public.gmane.org>

Frank Steiner wrote:
> With the profile ignoring the FUA bit, copying or deleting directories
> of e.g. 10M with a about 1000 files is factor 5 faster than with the
> profile honoring the FUA bit.
>   
FUA bit is normally combined with write-thru scsi command that bypasses 
storage write cache. I would imagine it needs to well synchronize 
various pieces before issuing this command. It could hurt the 
performance if not done well, particularly for meta data. So your result 
is not surprising.
> We export with the "sync" option. Does that option maybe set the FUA bit
> for all write operations on the NFS server?
>   
It depends on how the filesystem (and its associated disk subsystem) is 
implemented. The "sync" export option itself has a heavy performance 
impact, regardless how FUA bit is handled. Some vendors uses specialized 
HW (e.g. NVRAM) to alleviate this performance hit. If your filesystem 
doesn't have this type of support, you should expect "sync" option runs 
much much slower than "async". It is a choice (or balance) between cost, 
performance, and data reliability.

Don't you have the vendor's support group to go ? Better get this answer 
from the storage vendor directly.

-- Wendy


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-06-10 15:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-10 10:43 [NFS] Does "sync" cause the FUA bit to be set? Frank Steiner
     [not found] ` <484E5AC1.3020200-G0GEQqhI7DhYiKXMg8wJIg@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-10 11:53   ` Benny Halevy
2008-06-10 15:44   ` Wendy Cheng [this message]
     [not found]     ` <484EA215.5090000@panasas.com>
2008-06-10 18:52       ` Wendy Cheng
2008-06-10 19:47         ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]         ` <484EC317.8090801@panasas.com>
2008-06-10 22:58           ` Wendy Cheng
2008-06-16 13:06             ` Frank Steiner

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