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From: Tim Bird <tim.bird@am.sony.com>
To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>
Cc: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>,
	linux-tiny <Linux-tiny@selenic.com>,
	linux-embedded <linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: mainlining min-configs...
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:18:30 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <484EC576.5080302@am.sony.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080610083610.GC1987@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi>

Adrian Bunk wrote:
> But if you want to discover size change with minimal configs early you 
> anyway have to both:
> - constantly keep your configs in shape so that they are both minimal
>   for some set of hardware support and features and
> - investigate for any size changes what caused them
>   (experience has shown that putting information on a webpage doesn't
>    fix problems - even for compile errors).
Amen to that last point!

> 
> You need both, and ideally constantly done by the same person against 
> Linus' tree, -next and -mm.
> 
> Where to get your minimal configs from at the start is just a small 
> thing at the beginning - don't underestimate the required manual work 
> that will have to be done each week.

This is probably why I haven't signed up for this myself previously.
I'd be interested in finding out the rate at which defconfigs
bitrot in mainline.  My experience is that usually a 'make oldconfig'
will produce something usable.  But maybe that wouldn't be as
effective with a minconfig?

Maybe I'll collect some minconfigs, and try maintaining them
in my own tree for a few releases to see how onerous it is...
The problem is that I can only reasonably do this for boards
I have, so there'd only be a few.  But maybe that'd be enough.
They would really only be meant as examples.
 -- Tim


=============================
Tim Bird
Architecture Group Chair, CE Linux Forum
Senior Staff Engineer, Sony Corporation of America
=============================


  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-10 18:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-02 22:37 [PATCH] console - Add configurable support for console charset translation Tim Bird
2008-06-03  1:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-03  7:00   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-03 15:46   ` Matt Mackall
2008-06-03 21:31     ` Rob Landley
2008-06-03 22:37       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-04  2:56         ` Paul Mundt
2008-06-04 17:36           ` Rob Landley
2008-06-04 17:42             ` Bill Gatliff
2008-06-04 18:55               ` Rob Landley
2008-06-04 19:05                 ` Bill Gatliff
2008-06-05  0:46             ` Paul Mundt
2008-06-05 23:35               ` Rob Landley
2008-06-07  3:35                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-09 11:38                   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-09 11:51                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-06-04 17:34         ` Rob Landley
2008-06-03  8:36 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-03 13:45 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-03 14:06   ` Holger Schurig
2008-06-03 14:10     ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-04  0:01   ` Tim Bird
2008-06-04  0:16     ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-04  1:03       ` Josh Boyer
2008-06-04  1:05         ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-04  3:13           ` Josh Boyer
2008-06-04  9:16             ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-04 10:07               ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-04 10:10                 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-04 15:35       ` Tim Bird
2008-06-04 11:55     ` Alan Cox
2008-06-04 13:55       ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-04 14:07         ` Alan Cox
2008-06-04 14:27           ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-03 21:18 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-03 21:26   ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-03 21:30   ` Matt Mackall
2008-06-04  7:02     ` Holger Schurig
2008-06-04  7:04     ` Holger Schurig
2008-06-04  7:36       ` Dave Hylands
2008-06-04 15:24         ` Randy Dunlap
2008-06-04 17:19       ` Rob Landley
2008-06-04 17:26         ` linux-embedded archives [was Re: [PATCH] console - Add configurable support for console charset translation] T Ziomek
2008-06-04 18:08           ` Rob Landley
2008-06-04 10:33 ` [PATCH] console - Add configurable support for console charset translation Adrian Bunk
2008-06-04 17:51   ` Rob Landley
2008-06-04 18:34   ` Bernhard Fischer
2008-06-04 19:01     ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-04 19:21       ` Bernhard Fischer
2008-06-04 19:20         ` Alan Cox
2008-06-04 18:51   ` Tim Bird
2008-06-04 19:15     ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-06-04 19:23       ` Tim Bird
2008-06-04 20:23         ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-04 20:42           ` Tim Bird
2008-06-05  6:55             ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-05  6:55               ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-05  7:18           ` Uwe Klein
2008-06-05  7:18             ` Uwe Klein
2008-06-04 20:24       ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-04 20:24         ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-04 19:40     ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-06 23:47       ` Tim Bird
2008-06-07  4:29         ` Rob Landley
2008-06-10  1:37           ` mainlining min-configs Tim Bird
2008-06-10  3:14             ` Ben Nizette
2008-06-10  4:16               ` Paul Mundt
2008-06-10  8:36             ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-10 18:18               ` Tim Bird [this message]
2008-06-10 18:30                 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-10 18:51                   ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-06-10 19:05                     ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-11  5:09                     ` Rob Landley
2008-06-11  6:39                       ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-06-11 19:09                         ` Tim Bird
2008-06-11 19:22                           ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-06-11 19:36                           ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-11 19:46                             ` Tim Bird
2008-06-12  1:42                               ` Rob Landley
2008-06-11 19:48                             ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-06-12  0:01                           ` Rob Landley
2008-06-11  5:17                   ` Rob Landley
2008-06-11  5:51                 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-11  3:48               ` Rob Landley
2008-06-11  3:32             ` Rob Landley
2008-06-11  8:59             ` Christian MICHON
2008-06-04 19:42     ` [PATCH] console - Add configurable support for console charset translation Bernhard Fischer
2008-06-04 19:42       ` Bernhard Fischer
2008-06-11  7:08   ` Holger Schurig

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