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From: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>
Cc: Amar Mudrankit <amar.mudrankit@qlogic.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, general@lists.openfabrics.org,
	rdreier@cisco.com, poornima.kamath@qlogic.com
Subject: Re: [ofa-general] Re: [PATCH v4 14/14] QLogic VNIC: sysfs Documentation
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:54:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48562A41.7000304@trash.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080614190358.GU22807@obsidianresearch.com>

Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 11:03:08AM -0700, Roland Dreier wrote:
>>> We have linkstate/operstate for this. How is a user supposed
>>> to configure the network device when it appears at a more or
>>> less random time from his perspective?
>  
>> Well, keep in mind that this driver is for an ethernet virtual NIC
>> that is actually
>> remote across another network (an InfiniBand fabric) -- so these devices
>> can actually appear or disappear at random times by their nature.  It's a
>> similar issue to, say, a USB ethernet adapter presents -- there's no sane way
>> to have operstate set for a device that hasn't been attached yet.
> 
> I think that is only a fair analogy if the VNIC used some kind of
> hot-plug auto discovery procedure like USB does. As soon as you
> require the administrator to run a command to bind a device to a VNIC
> GID you are much more like a tunnel device and the ethernet device
> should exist from the moment the administator creates it up until the
> administator destroys it. The state of the connection to the VNIC
> should be reflected in some way other than device presence.

Fully agreed.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-16  8:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-10 21:02 [ofa-general] [PATCH v4 00/14] QLogic VNIC Driver Ramachandra K
2008-06-10 21:02 ` [ofa-general] [PATCH v4 01/14] QLogic VNIC: Driver - netdev implementation Ramachandra K
2008-06-10 21:03 ` [ofa-general] [PATCH v4 02/14] QLogic VNIC: Netpath - abstraction of connection to EVIC/VEx Ramachandra K
2008-06-10 21:03 ` [ofa-general] [PATCH v4 03/14] QLogic VNIC: Implementation of communication protocol with EVIC/VEx Ramachandra K
2008-06-10 21:04 ` [ofa-general] [PATCH v4 04/14] QLogic VNIC: Implementation of Control path of communication protocol Ramachandra K
2008-06-10 22:21   ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-06-10 21:04 ` [ofa-general] [PATCH v4 05/14] QLogic VNIC: Implementation of Data " Ramachandra K
2008-06-10 21:05 ` [ofa-general] [PATCH v4 06/14] QLogic VNIC: IB core stack interaction Ramachandra K
2008-06-10 21:05 ` [ofa-general] [PATCH v4 07/14] QLogic VNIC: Handling configurable parameters of the driver Ramachandra K
2008-06-10 21:06 ` [ofa-general] [PATCH v4 08/14] QLogic VNIC: sysfs interface implementation for " Ramachandra K
2008-06-10 21:06 ` [ofa-general] [PATCH v4 09/14] QLogic VNIC: IB Multicast for Ethernet broadcast/multicast Ramachandra K
2008-06-10 21:07 ` [ofa-general] [PATCH v4 10/14] QLogic VNIC: Driver Statistics collection Ramachandra K
2008-06-10 21:07 ` [PATCH v4 11/14] QLogic VNIC: Driver utility file - implements various utility macros Ramachandra K
2008-06-10 21:08 ` [PATCH v4 12/14] QLogic VNIC: Driver Kconfig and Makefile Ramachandra K
2008-06-10 21:08 ` [ofa-general] [PATCH v4 13/14] QLogic VNIC: Modifications to IB " Ramachandra K
2008-06-10 21:09 ` [ofa-general] [PATCH v4 14/14] QLogic VNIC: sysfs Documentation Ramachandra K
2008-06-11  6:47   ` Patrick McHardy
2008-06-12 15:13     ` [ofa-general] " Amar Mudrankit
2008-06-12 15:18       ` Patrick McHardy
2008-06-12 15:29         ` Ramachandra K
2008-06-12 15:34           ` Patrick McHardy
2008-06-12 20:22           ` Jeff Garzik
2008-06-14 18:03         ` Roland Dreier
2008-06-14 19:03           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2008-06-16  8:54             ` Patrick McHardy [this message]
2008-06-18 12:32               ` Ramachandra K
2008-06-18 12:38                 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-06-18 18:21                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2008-06-19  1:19                     ` Patrick McHardy
2008-06-19  1:26                       ` Patrick McHardy
2008-06-12 15:50     ` Ramachandra K
2008-06-12 16:03       ` Patrick McHardy
2008-06-12 21:09         ` Amar Mudrankit
2008-06-13 15:20           ` Patrick McHardy
2008-06-13 21:47             ` Amar Mudrankit
2008-06-14  8:08               ` Patrick McHardy
2008-06-16 19:44                 ` Amar Mudrankit
2008-06-16 20:39                   ` Patrick McHardy
2008-06-12 16:04       ` Karen Shaeffer
2008-06-12 15:21 ` [ofa-general] [PATCH v4 00/14] QLogic VNIC Driver Ramachandra K
2008-06-12 15:35   ` Patrick McHardy

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