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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmail.fm>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rob Mueller <robm@fastmail.fm>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: BUG: mmapfile/writev spurious zero bytes (x86_64/not i386, bisected, reproducable)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:30:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48582D04.1000107@firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0806171421100.2907@woody.linux-foundation.org>

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, Andi Kleen wrote:
>> If that fixes anything:
>> - The caller is broken because it shouldn't pass a faulting source to copy_to_user()
>> - And you broken copy_from_user error reporting which shares the same code
> 
> Andi, I'm sorry I cc'd you. You are the author of that crap, but the bug 
> seems to be that you never even understood what copy_from_user() is 
> supposed to do.
> 
> The whole *and*only* reason for copy_to/from_user() existing AT ALL is 
> exactly the fact that the source or destination access can fault. 

yes, but only one of them (destination for copy_to_user and source for
copy_from_user)

Or are you're describing copy_in_user()?

> I don't really see why you continually start arguing about things that are 
> OBVIOUSLY BUGGY, as if they weren't buggy. Once somebody has debugged a 
> buggy routine, you shouldn't argue against it. 
> 
> So here's a hint: next time I claim some code of yours is buggy, either 
> just acknowledge the bug, or stay silent. You'll look smarter that way.

Ok if I'm really wrong on this (but frankly I don't see the mistake, sorry)
for my person edification: what's a legitimate case for copy_to_user()
where the source can fault?

-Andi



  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-17 21:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-17  6:00 BUG: mmapfile/writev spurious zero bytes (x86_64/not i386, bisected, reproducable) Bron Gondwana
2008-06-17  6:02 ` Bron Gondwana
2008-06-17 17:08   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-17 17:45     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-17 20:16       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-17 20:41         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-17 21:06           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-17 21:16             ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-17 21:24               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-17 21:30                 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2008-06-17 21:37                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-17 21:36                 ` Al Viro
2008-06-17 21:42                   ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-17 21:49                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-17 22:11                     ` Al Viro
2008-06-17 22:21                       ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-18  6:22                         ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-17 21:20             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-18  2:27               ` Bron Gondwana
2008-06-18  3:14               ` Bron Gondwana
2008-06-18  4:03                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-18  5:11                   ` Cyrus mmap vs lseek/write usage - (WAS: BUG: mmapfile/writev spurious zero bytes (x86_64/not i386, bisected, reproducable)) Bron Gondwana
2008-06-18 16:22                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-18 23:45                       ` Robert Mueller
2008-06-19  0:20                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-03 11:44               ` BUG: mmapfile/writev spurious zero bytes still in the wild Bron Gondwana
2008-10-03 13:07                 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-04  0:13                   ` Bron Gondwana
2008-06-17 21:15           ` BUG: mmapfile/writev spurious zero bytes (x86_64/not i386, bisected, reproducable) Andi Kleen
2008-06-17 20:58         ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-17 21:14           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-17 21:26             ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-17 21:31               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-17 21:34                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-17 21:34                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-17 21:46                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-18  6:10                     ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-18  2:21     ` Bron Gondwana

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